Re:Teen Creates “Sit with Us” App for Bullied Kids
by theorique on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @04:50PM
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You are also told to fight back if they go from threatening your wallet to threatening your physical well-being. Many places will actually send out the authorities to search for and imprison muggers after you report them. You are definitely not supposed to "just ignore them," you're supposed to do what it takes to survive, then report them, and have them brought to justice.
Exactly. If a mugging turns into a kidnapping, the recommended practice is for the victim to not go with the criminal, and to fight back or attempt to escape by whatever means available.
For crime victims who are transported by criminals to a so-called "secondary crime scene", the survival statistics are much worse than in the case of a simple mugging.
Re:Teen Creates “Sit with Us” App for Bullied Kids
by dimino on Thursday September 15, 2016 @02:45PM
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It makes sense to me that we are no longer talking about a mugging, because if we were, then what I said would have been true. The fact that this argument had to shift to a kidnapping in order to continue should be testament enough to the validity of my original point.
You are not simply told to ignore muggers. You are told to comply with muggers because muggers are life-threatening. You are also told to fight back if they go from threatening your wallet to threatening your physical well-being. Many places will actually send out the authorities to search for and imprison muggers after you report them. You are definitely not supposed to "just ignore them," you're supposed to do what it takes to survive, then report them, and have them brought to justice.
I don't see people saying violence is a solution, only that it can sometimes be the best choice out of a bunch of bad ones if you're in a situation where the authorities have failed you and you have to fend for yourself. Me, I'm advocating the exact opposite of violence being a solution: I'm saying, repeatedly, that schools need to do more to prevent violence, precisely so children don't have to take matters into their own hands.
Come on, you can do better than this weird straw-manning.