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Re:Teen Creates “Sit with Us” App for Bullied Kids by mikeash on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @02:29PM (#12499889)
That's an excellent point. When people tell you that you should comply with a mugger, that's because there's a serious threat of being killed, and compliance offers the best chance of surviving the encounter.
Re:Teen Creates “Sit with Us” App for Bullied Kids by rabboRubble on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @03:47PM (#12500616)
Yes for mugging, but not if you are dealing with a would be rapist. Don't fight back, have your account of the event questioned and doubted...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/06/2...

Re:Teen Creates “Sit with Us” App for Bullied Kids by vkou on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @06:16PM (#12501672)
Fight back against a rapist, maybe get seriously injured or killed. It's damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't.
Re:Teen Creates “Sit with Us” App for Bullied Kids by rabboRubble on Thursday September 15, 2016 @12:19AM (#12503379)
Yeah, there was a news article in the last couple of weeks about that very thing. Apparently the Baltimore PD have been marking rape reports as unsubstantiated because, at least in one case, the woman didn't fight back under verbal threat. There is something funky with the law either in MD or in Baltimore (don't remember which) that requires the rapist to actually do violence (apparently the unwanted penis isn't enough) for the rape to be counted as a certain type of sexual assault. So all the would be rapist has to say "if you fight back, I'll kill you", the victim believes the rapist and doesn't fight back, and bingo-bango under the law, the rape is unsubstantiated.

In at least one case, a serial rapist rapist walked free because he had no prior history of sexual crimes. Because prior reports were unsubstantiated since the prior victims didn't fight back.

Tried to find this article without joy. One of the bajillion I come across via RSS.

Re:Teen Creates “Sit with Us” App for Bullied Kids by mikeash on Thursday September 15, 2016 @10:28AM (#12506418)
My understanding is that this sort of thing is pretty common. Traditionally, "rape" required the victim to resist "to the utmost." Our idea of what constitutes rape has broadened considerably, but the law is sometimes slow to catch up. According to this, five US states still have such requirements in their laws:

http://www.womenslawproject.org/resources/Rape%20and%20Sexua...

Many others make no mention either way, and I suspect many of them would then fall back to the traditional requirement.