Re:Pardon Snowden
by strictnein on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @12:36PM
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Yeah, the narrative that he tried to follow the rules to get the "egregious" programs stopped is almost entirely false. He may have made one off-the-record attempt with a superior. He also once emailed someone that a test he took had a wrong answer in regards to Executive Orders being able to override laws, and that email got forwarded around until it hit an NSA lawyer and they stated that he was correct. EOs and laws carry the same weight, but EOs cannot override laws. And that was what he's referring to in a fair amount of his interviews.
Re:Pardon Snowden
by AnkhMorporkian on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @06:46PM
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Really? I was under the impression that he followed through some fairly extensive inquiries. I'll have to do some more research, but if what you say is true, then I might have to reevaluate my position again. If he didn't even attempt the proper channels, then my pardon 'offer' is off the table again.
Re:Pardon Snowden
by mixmastamyk on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @02:10PM
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Watch the Frontline special "The US of Secrets," to find out what happens to those who complained loudly enough.
Re:Pardon Snowden
by strictnein on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @02:19PM
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Yes, I'll watch a multipart documentary to try and suss out the point you want me to learn.
Snowden complained loudly about a test answer. That's it.
Re:Pardon Snowden
by mixmastamyk on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @03:34PM
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You're very sure for someone who doesn't appear to have done much research on the subject.
The point in that riveting doc was simple, those that complained too loudly lost everything, thankfully not their lives.
Plus, as someone who held a clearance in the DoD (former interrogator), I will say it can be hard (especially for someone like those journalists who never held a clearance) to tell what can directly hurt someone else. Handing off NSA program documents could have potentially put the lives of CIA and NSA agents and sources around the world...but we would never know. Even the families of those people wouldn't know. All they would know is that their family member didn't come home.