Google’s become an obsessive stalker

Re:Google’s become an obsessive stalker by triplesec on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @10:04AM (#12496940)

It seems I stand corrected (although none of us has posted references). I'm disappointed about being downvoted for being potentially wrong, though, as that's not what it's for. I'm OK to update my thoughts, athough I have reservations. I looked for what made me think this and it's Apple's pretty dire history of security holes and secret data tracking. For example, from reputable sources: http://www.wired.co.uk/article/apple-spies-on-yosemite-searc... https://pando.com/2014/07/28/apple-hit-with-class-action-sui... https://www.wired.com/2015/11/how-to-get-rid-of-the-iphone-m... http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/04/how-apple-tracks-your-l... http://www.cultofmac.com/132610/it-took-apple-3-years-to-fix...

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Re:Google’s become an obsessive stalker by macintux on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @10:16AM (#12497046)

I appreciate your follow-up, although you're still conflating data tracking under your control vs data tracking under Apple's control.

* https://www.wired.com/2015/11/how-to-get-rid-of-the-iphone-m...

Wired is pointing out that the phone keeps a history of locations. Not Apple. Again, very different from Google's practices.

* http://www.wired.co.uk/article/apple-spies-on-yosemite-searc...

This one was disappointing, and as the comments indicate, contrary to Apple's customary sensitivity around privacy. Also trivially disabled, again, unlike the location tracking the Register is describing here which cannot be turned off.

* https://pando.com/2014/07/28/apple-hit-with-class-action-sui...

Sounds more like a lawsuit driving by misinformation. Show me facts, please.

* http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/04/how-apple-tracks-your-l...

Again, purely data stored on the phone.

* http://www.cultofmac.com/132610/it-took-apple-3-years-to-fix...

Embarrassing, undoubtedly. Again, not Apple data collection.

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Re:Google’s become an obsessive stalker by darren_ on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @10:57AM (#12497533)

> Also trivially disabled, again, unlike the location tracking the Register is describing here which cannot be turned off.

The tracking absolutely can be turned off. The register's original article is somewhat confused on this.

(disclaimer: googler)

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Re:Google’s become an obsessive stalker by macintux on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @11:02AM (#12497601)

Interesting. Important and good to know, thanks.

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Re:Google’s become an obsessive stalker by FussyZeus on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @10:47AM (#12497412)

Regardless of specific events, you need look no further than their business models to see the difference:

Apple produces and sells premium devices (arguably fashion pieces) at a premium price. They make their money at the point of sale.

Google produces and contracts with manufacturers to produce devices, and provides services. They make their money with ads.

These are both widely known and accepted things, and these mean that Apple has a vested interest to NOT scrape your data, where Google has a vested interest to scrape as much of your data as they can.

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