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Re:Experiments with disabling the ME on Sandybridge x230 by drvdevd on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @01:09PM (#12490232)
Ah ... reading further down the thread its explained and is even more interesting: https://www.coreboot.org/pipermail/coreboot/2016-September/0...
Re:Experiments with disabling the ME on Sandybridge x230 by DashRattlesnake on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @01:44PM (#12490572)
> along with the fact that the ME will sync it's internal clock with NTP servers across the internet once every 30 days

Wow. This is part of the processor?

Re:Experiments with disabling the ME on Sandybridge x230 by jandrese on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @02:06PM (#12490766)
The Management Engine, think of it as running at Ring -1. It can access hardware below the level of the processor. Injecting malware into it would be the holy grail for attackers, it would be impossible for anything running on the CPU to detect it and the malware would have access to all of the low level hardware. It can even intercept or create packets on the network interfaces.

Luckily the implementation is obscure so it has perfect security, right? There's no way such a complex piece of software that has had very little oversight could have exploitable bugs that would completely destroy any security foundations you have on your machine.

Re:Experiments with disabling the ME on Sandybridge x230 by drvdevd on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @02:16PM (#12490864)
> It can even intercept or create packets on the network interfaces.

And appears to be built to do so out of the box by default with no "specialized code". I'm guessing with both wired and wireless interfaces... crazy!

Re:Experiments with disabling the ME on Sandybridge x230 by drvdevd on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @02:12PM (#12490818)
My next question is (and it's probably mentioned further in the thread or manual somewhere): how does the ME chipset route traffic to the Internet in the first place? Piggyback off the OS? Does this mean it's directly coupled with the networking devices on the system somehow? Presumably it will work with any OS....
Re:Experiments with disabling the ME on Sandybridge x230 by yuhong on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @02:12PM (#12490824)
AMT requires Intel NICs for that reason.
Re:Experiments with disabling the ME on Sandybridge x230 by DashRattlesnake on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @03:04PM (#12491257)
So could you neutralize its communication functions (to a degree) by using a non-Intel NIC? Would a non-chipset Intel NIC accomplish the same thing?
Re:Experiments with disabling the ME on Sandybridge x230 by djsumdog on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @05:53PM (#12492580)
but it still needs and IP address right? Does ME does its own DHCP/BOOTP configuration or does it rely on some other protocol specific to Intel NICs/Intel infrastructure?
Re:Experiments with disabling the ME on Sandybridge x230 by jcrawfordor on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @07:24PM (#12493061)
The AMT component must be specifically configured with network information. It is usually kept on a different interface from that used by the OS for security reasons.
Re:Experiments with disabling the ME on Sandybridge x230 by yuhong on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @01:49PM (#12490617)
"chipset" I think.