Edward Snowden makes 'moral' case for presidential pardon

Re:Edward Snowden makes 'moral' case for presidential pardon by tptacek on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @08:09AM (#12487374)

My guess is, his flight from the US is going to prevent his pardon. A pardon was a long shot no matter what, but a preemptive pardon of a fugitive would be without historical precedent.

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Re:Edward Snowden makes 'moral' case for presidential pardon by nabla9 on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @08:32AM (#12487532)

Carter's pardon for draft dodgers was preemptive pardon for hundreas of thousands of fugitives, many of them who left the country. 50,000 never returned even after pardon.

There has been some other preemptive pardons: pardons for Richard Nixon and Caspar Weinberger at least.

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Re:Edward Snowden makes 'moral' case for presidential pardon by tptacek on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @08:34AM (#12487548)

Preemptive pardons are definitely not without precedent.

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Re:Edward Snowden makes 'moral' case for presidential pardon by tanderson92 on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @09:05AM (#12487799)

The point was that preemptive pardons for fugitives is also not without precedent, as you claimed.

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Re:Edward Snowden makes 'moral' case for presidential pardon by tptacek on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @09:06AM (#12487807)

Neither Nixon nor Weinberger were fugitives. Also: see rest of thread.

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Re:Edward Snowden makes 'moral' case for presidential pardon by nabla9 on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @09:17AM (#12487892)

My comment used Carter as the example of pardoning fugitives preemptively.

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/proclamation-4483-granting-pa...

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Re:Edward Snowden makes 'moral' case for presidential pardon by tanderson92 on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @09:13AM (#12487857)

Correct! It is fortunate then that the poster mentioned Carter's pardons.

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Re:Edward Snowden makes 'moral' case for presidential pardon by finid on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @08:27AM (#12487495)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Clinton pardon a guy who ran to another country to avoid prosecution here (USA)?

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Re:Edward Snowden makes 'moral' case for presidential pardon by tptacek on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @08:33AM (#12487544)

Yeah, Mark Rich. Ok, not without precedent. (Mark Rich cooperated and was pardoned conditionally, for whatever that's worth).

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Re:Edward Snowden makes 'moral' case for presidential pardon by parenthesis on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @08:36AM (#12487567)

Yes, Marc Rich.

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Re:Edward Snowden makes 'moral' case for presidential pardon by cloudjacker on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @10:01AM (#12488272)

That's not true, Bill Clintons pardon of Marc Rich, a fugitive, on his last day in office is pretty spot on

And waaaay more questionable, but only questionable if you give the Clintons the benefit of the doubt still

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