Yeah, I'm all up for writing everything in machine language using punch cards. Anything else is clearly too much abstraction and obviously a sign of bad engineers.

Cards? No, you need to feel the bits, inputting them with manual switches.

LOL, all of the frameworks mentioned, even express are pretty light abstractions... that said, I feel angular, as an example goes TOO far.. way too far. These days, I hesitate to even use lodash, let alone jquery or larger bits. Though I'll still bring in moment if I have to deal with a lot of date/time logic and formatting (hate the size of it though).