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Re:Google’s Self-Driving Car Project Is Losing Out to Rivals by pjc50 on Monday September 12, 2016 @10:45AM (#12480083)
Indeed. Calling a car that requires constant human supervision with the ability to retake control in a few hundred miliseconds "autonomous" is misleading and practically fraudulent.

If it can't get from A to B without a human behind the wheel, it's not autonomous.

Re:Google’s Self-Driving Car Project Is Losing Out to Rivals by shogun21 on Monday September 12, 2016 @10:54AM (#12480166)
It's even more dangerous if it creates a false sense of security.
Re:Google’s Self-Driving Car Project Is Losing Out to Rivals by robotresearcher on Monday September 12, 2016 @02:51PM (#12482541)
> If it can't get from A to B without a human behind the wheel, it's not autonomous.

How about if it can achieve this 99.9% of the time, but needs help very occasionally? How many nines do you need? Humans are not at 100% overall. There's no clear definition of autonomy.

Re:Google’s Self-Driving Car Project Is Losing Out to Rivals by ghaff on Monday September 12, 2016 @04:56PM (#12483599)
It's hard to evaluate in terms of a percentage. Is that 99.9% of hours it's fine and the other 0.1% it will plow into something? That means that it will have an accident, possibly a serious one, one every 1,000 hrs. Which is probably about once a year for a lot of people.
Re:Google’s Self-Driving Car Project Is Losing Out to Rivals by robotresearcher on Monday September 12, 2016 @05:57PM (#12484032)
Right. My point was that the parent poster said 'if it can't get from A to B then it's not autonomous', but the meaning of can/can't is rather complicated in practice.
Re:Google’s Self-Driving Car Project Is Losing Out to Rivals by greglindahl on Monday September 12, 2016 @11:58AM (#12480789)
Here's the language that the US Federal Government uses:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_car#Classification

Re:Google’s Self-Driving Car Project Is Losing Out to Rivals by QuercusMax on Monday September 12, 2016 @12:30PM (#12481103)
Seems like the key is providing a "sufficiently comfortable" time. To me that sounds like at least 15 seconds, but that's just a guess.