Re:Two Israeli teens arrested for running major DDoS service
by hourislate on Monday September 12, 2016 @12:55AM
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I would be surprised if anything happens to them. They are Israeli and most likely considered off limits to the US Justice System. They will probably just get a stern warning.
A sad (or amusing, depending on your point of view) thing, actually - Israeli police has started begging the FBI a few years ago to ask Israel for extradition of Israeli drug dealers who had anything, even remotely, to do with the US - because the burden of evidence in a criminal case in Israel is so much heavier than in the US.
This is their plan B: Israeli police have been unable to get the conviction they wanted in cases which would have been cut-and-dry in the US. Israeli courts don't just trust blindly trust a cop's "I saw / I heard" evidence, and apply custody of evidence rules very strictly, which makes some (arguably just) convictions nearly impossible. (On the other hand, wrong convictions, though definitely exist, are probably much less frequent as a result)
Re:Two Israeli teens arrested for running major DDoS service
by matt_wulfeck on Monday September 12, 2016 @01:56AM
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Aren't you also glad that you're a US citizen and considered off limits to laws other countries enact?
Besides, I have a difficult time believing harsh punishment will be any kind of deterrent to these types of DDoS attacks. The internet and its infrastructure needs to become more secure and robust against this, and it needs to improve fast.
Re:Two Israeli teens arrested for running major DDoS service
by thingexplainer on Monday September 12, 2016 @02:48AM
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Do we need to take measures against people shouting nonsense through megaphones, or can we just accept that they have this capability and pursue more interesting topics?
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/09/israeli-online-attack-ser...
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/09/alleged-vdos-proprietors-...
Different rules for different folks......
A sad (or amusing, depending on your point of view) thing, actually - Israeli police has started begging the FBI a few years ago to ask Israel for extradition of Israeli drug dealers who had anything, even remotely, to do with the US - because the burden of evidence in a criminal case in Israel is so much heavier than in the US.
This is their plan B: Israeli police have been unable to get the conviction they wanted in cases which would have been cut-and-dry in the US. Israeli courts don't just trust blindly trust a cop's "I saw / I heard" evidence, and apply custody of evidence rules very strictly, which makes some (arguably just) convictions nearly impossible. (On the other hand, wrong convictions, though definitely exist, are probably much less frequent as a result)
Not that a police officers experience shouldn't have any gravitas, but it also shouldn't become the law.
Besides, I have a difficult time believing harsh punishment will be any kind of deterrent to these types of DDoS attacks. The internet and its infrastructure needs to become more secure and robust against this, and it needs to improve fast.