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Re:Enough with Basic Income by 1024core on Sunday September 11, 2016 @01:48PM (#12474579)
> The French example of basic income isn't. It's a means tested benefit which is utterly incomparable to UBI.

Read the article again. His point is that the RMI (RSA) is what they ended up with, even though they wanted (started with) something similar to UBI.

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Re:Enough with Basic Income by ebalit on Monday September 12, 2016 @08:43AM (#12479175)
No, they did not start with a UBI. RMI was means tested from the start.

The RSA was a reform intended to "smooth the edges". While you would lose you're RMI as soon as you start working, now you can keep part of the RSA during a transition period.

But the problem with RSA is that it's really complex and most people still don't get it. And it's a lot of paperware for a relatively small amount of money.

I think France is actually one of the best place to start a real UBI scheme. Our system is close to UBI but probably the worst implementation possible, with a lot of edge cases.

This proposal details a complete reform of our tax system around a UBI: http://www.allocationuniverselle.com/doc/BIEN_Munich_2012-09...

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