Re:It’s Tough Being Over 40 in Silicon Valley
by ericd on Thursday September 08, 2016 @02:44PM
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Is jQuery too low level for people now?
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Re:It’s Tough Being Over 40 in Silicon Valley
by WalterSear on Thursday September 08, 2016 @03:35PM
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It's too primitive an abstraction.
It was great when you were just fiddling a few little ajax widgets on a static page, but it doesn't scale.
Re:It’s Tough Being Over 40 in Silicon Valley
by ericd on Friday September 09, 2016 @03:34AM
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That's what I meant by low level. Frankly, I disagree about scalability - that's up to the program's architect.
Re:It’s Tough Being Over 40 in Silicon Valley
by WalterSear on Friday September 09, 2016 @05:00PM
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So, how would you go about altering all large numbers of page sections in realtime, without suffering the performance hit of serial page repaints, using jquery?
Re:It’s Tough Being Over 40 in Silicon Valley
by ericd on Saturday September 10, 2016 @03:04PM
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Haven't run into that need, I doubt most sites have, so I don't have a ready answer for you. We typically only change the parts of the page that have data that has actually changed, so DOM rendering performance hasn't been a difficult problem for us.
I thought you meant scalability in terms of code size, or number of people working on it, or number of users.
Re:It’s Tough Being Over 40 in Silicon Valley
by brlewis on Thursday September 08, 2016 @03:13PM
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It's too reliant on state changes all over the place, making even medium-complexity web apps really hard to maintain. I find with Mithril (similar to React but smaller) it's a lot easier to understand how my app gets into a particular state.
Re:It’s Tough Being Over 40 in Silicon Valley
by collyw on Thursday September 08, 2016 @04:50PM
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Only if you keep too much of the complexity in the front end.
Re:It’s Tough Being Over 40 in Silicon Valley
by dismantlethesun on Friday September 09, 2016 @01:03PM
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Well.. as a client interface HTML/CSS/Javascript have all been fairly anaemic compared to what is possible with native interfaces.
Once you've worked with a native interface, you're loathe to give up the potential for creation that comes with it, just to keep complexity out of the front-end.
Arguably, one could say people need to be retrained, and need to stop trying to make the web into something its not.... but considering the trends, I think that ship has sailed.