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Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by user5994461 on Thursday September 08, 2016 @06:27AM (#12451728)
> how terrible is the reputation of IT and developers in large companies from the business side. They are seen as a world of hyper-bureaucratic, common sense-free, business sense-hostile, half-assed lemmings.

Large non-tech hyper-bureaucratic common-sense-free companies are especially hostile toward good IT and dev so good people just don't work there ;)

[and even if they did, they still couldn't get anything done]

Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by cm2187 on Thursday September 08, 2016 @09:10AM (#12452603)
Somehow IT manages to be an order of magnitude more bureaucratic than the rest of the company. Perhaps a case of IT people trying to be more catholic than the pope in a bureaucratic company!
Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by pb8226 on Thursday September 08, 2016 @08:42AM (#12452410)
This is exactly the truth. The environments are suffocating and good people are only moderately more productive and don't stick around long.