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Re:iPhone 7 by pawelwentpawel on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @03:14PM (#12446289)
Can somebody explain why a lens with f1.8 is not able to provide the depth of field effect on itself?
Re:iPhone 7 by berberous on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @03:22PM (#12446401)
Sensor size. Depth of field is based on (1) sensor size (you want big), (2) aperture (you want a low number, i.e. big opening), (3) focus distance to nearest subject, and (4) focal length (I think...).

So on a full frame sensor camera, shooting someone's portrait with an 80mm will give you very shallow DoF, on a sensor the size of an iPhone, it's probably close to infinite.

Edit: I don't think the above is technically exactly correct...Here's a good explanation: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/depth-of-field.ht...

Re:iPhone 7 by rodgerd on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @04:08PM (#12447057)
Nit-pick: more exit pupil than sensor size, but they're a rough approximation anyhow.

But you're correct that the short (actual, not equivalent) focal length of camera phones makes an f/1.8 completely irrelevant.

Re:iPhone 7 by NLips on Thursday September 08, 2016 @06:40AM (#12451768)
Sensor size doesn't really have an effect - it's about focal length. The reason sensor size seems to have an effect is because for the same field of view with a bigger sensor, you have a longer focal length. For the same focal length, aperture and focus distance, a larger sensor doesn't change DOF; it just adds more of the surroundings to the outside of the picture.
Re:iPhone 7 by oscilloscope on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @03:24PM (#12446440)
It's a combination of wide-angle focal length and small sensor size. It is still possible to get a natural depth of field effect by getting very close to the subject, and that effect should be more pronounced with the 56mm equivalent telephoto lens.
Re:iPhone 7 by bluehawk on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @03:23PM (#12446432)
Because it's a tiny lens with a very very short focal length. Short focal lens tend to make everything in focus, regardless of aperture.
Re:iPhone 7 by tshtf on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @03:20PM (#12446367)
Because the focal length (not the 35mm equivalent) is very short due to the small sensor on the phone.
Re:iPhone 7 by ksk on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @04:38PM (#12447423)
Because it depends on other factors. See what happens for the 1/3" Sensor Size, f1.8, 29mm focal length, etc..

http://dofsimulator.net/en/

Re:iPhone 7 by resolaibohp on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @03:29PM (#12446524)
Because sensor size has a large factor in depth of field. The camera sensors in phones are very small. This is why you can get better depth of field with a full frame camera then you can with a crop sensor and same goes for small phone sensors.