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Re:Wikileaks gun camera video of civilians shot in Baghdad 0... by lionhearted on Monday April 05, 2010 @05:38PM (#1243160)
> This video is proof of murder, disresctpectful combat, imcompetent ranking officers and blind trigger happy pilots. Calling this video anything other than above is political bullshit.

Proof of murder, huh? I'd point out some things worth thinking about, but it sounds like you've completely made your mind up already. Would it be worth spending a few minutes trying to look at why it happened, and all the elements of the situation, and the thinking patterns of people involved - or would that just be "political bullshit"?

It's easy to apply black and white thinking to a battlefield after the fact, but it seems to miss a lot of the nuance of the situation - the helicopter had been radioed in by ground troops who were under small arms fire. The fight might or might not have still been going. It's not clear where the van came from, and what the positions of the engaged ground forces were relative to the van. Who knows if that style of van had been used recently for combat purposes by the insurgency. This was at the height of the surge - was there a curfew or some ban on vehicles in the area?

I don't know. I'd ask and think about things like that, but is that just "political bullshit"? Battlefields seem to rarely give way to black and white morality. It seems like after something like this comes out, you could get more answers by thinking and asking smart questions than you would by rushing to moral judgment.

Re:Wikileaks gun camera video of civilians shot in Baghdad 0... by GiraffeNecktie on Monday April 05, 2010 @09:35PM (#1243572)
There was a bunch of guys casually wandering around the middle of street. They weren't running, hiding or shooting and they were obviously not participating in this supposed firefight.
Re:Wikileaks gun camera video of civilians shot in Baghdad 0... by xilun666 on Monday April 05, 2010 @09:17PM (#1243544)
yeah, war is a mess, context exists on a battlefield, let's destroy more medevacs, YEAH

fire in the hole.