Extrapolating SV to any global market is mostly a recipe for terrible predictions in my experience.

Yeah. In my west European country, Tesla represents about 3% of the EV market and... 0.03% of the whole market! This, despite electric vehicles being heavily subsidised (which infuriates me because the equivalent of a whole year of minimal wage, or 2 years of minimal income, is given, for each car, to the car buyer (or car manufacturer, depends how you see it)).

I have never seen any.

I wish they refunded long term mass transport tickets that are in consistent use like this... Would be much more environmentally friendly.

No it's not. I see lots of Teslas around here but far more BMWs, followed closely by Audi and Mercedes. I see Priuses everywhere.

And outside of the valley Teslas are very rare by comparison with any other brand.

For a comparison point, in the modestly-wealthy part of northern New England I call home, midnight blue 328 diesel wagons with saddle brown leather interiors are as common as all teslas (I know of four of each).

Midwestern USA here, I've seen two Model S and one roadster in the past 3 years.

> And outside of the valley Teslas are very rare by comparison with any other brand.

i'm not a tesla fanboy, but this isn't true. LA has more. LA has more of everything car-related, because it's LA.

most people that live in the bay area have never actually been to los angeles so they don't comprehend the size of the metro area. it dwarfs the bay in terms of population and sheer size, which is why a lot of people don't like it.

I spent the second half of my childhood there. Haven't been back since. I'll note that quantity is different from density (e.g. per capita) of ownership.

i spend time in both places. you're not going to convince me that the rate of tesla ownership is higher in e.g. palo alto vs e.g. santa monica.

either way it's not "very rare", that just snacks of someone who lives in the sv bubble.

And your point is?

that you are wrong, and you live in a bubble.

i thought i was pretty clear about that, but i guess i should have just kept it short and sweet.