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Re:Wikileaks gun camera video of civilians shot in Baghdad 0... by clammer on Monday April 05, 2010 @04:45PM (#1243012)
That's fair.

>If you really believed that the killing is bad, you ought to not enlist

I really do believe that. I even donated thousands of dollars to a POTUS candidate that would have gotten us out of Iraq as soon as he took office. Sadly, 98.5% of Americans still wanted this war, since they voted for Obama or McCain.

>It seems that you're entirely too willing to throw out morals for expediency

If the expediency should mean the difference between my life or death, than yes. I'm just being honest here. In war, I'd kill anyone who I thought was a danger to me, but then I wouldn't go to war unless it was for self defense.

>If you go there willingly, knowing what's going on, you can't use the exigencies of the situation as an excuse, as they're perfectly foreseeable.

That's a good point, but why apply it to just the soldier, why not our Presidents? Wasn't it entirely foreseeable that innocent people would die by going into or staying in Iraq. Isn't it entirely foreseeable that the money we send the government is going to pay for all this to happen?

The reason I defend these heli pilots is 1) because the situation they were in was far more complicated than most people here will admit, 2) they probably didn't sign up to kill innocent people, just like I didn't pay my taxes to pay for the bullets.

Re:Wikileaks gun camera video of civilians shot in Baghdad 0... by rbranson on Monday April 05, 2010 @08:51PM (#1243509)
> Sadly, 98.5% of Americans still wanted this war, since they voted for Obama or McCain.

Blatantly wrong. You are throwing away the rest of your point with this garbage.

Re:Wikileaks gun camera video of civilians shot in Baghdad 0... by clammer on Monday April 05, 2010 @11:13PM (#1243733)
No, I looked it up...98.5% of people voted for McCain or Obama.

You must think I'm wrong in some other way...please explain. Getting out of Iraq wasn't part of either candidate's platform. So, how was I blatantly wrong?

Re:Wikileaks gun camera video of civilians shot in Baghdad 0... by rbranson on Tuesday April 06, 2010 @01:39AM (#1243961)
You are drawing a false conclusion. Even if 98.5% voted for McCain or Obama, this does not mean 98.5% support the war. It just means that 98.5% voted for a candidate that supports the war. I do not support the war, yet I voted for Obama. That fact alone spoils your conclusion.