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Re:Paris climate deal: US and China announce ratification by shoo on Saturday September 03, 2016 @05:35AM (#12418498)
putting blame aside, the behaviour isn't particularly surprising if we assume that people are more or less rationally looking out for their own interests:

it's not in my own interest to reduce my consumption and emissions. it's very much in my own interest for all of you to reduce your consumption and emissions.

it's easy for me to change my own behaviour, but very hard for me to coerce you to change your behaviour against your own interests.

it is in my interest to support global regulation of everyone's consumption and emissions, including my own, provided i believe i will gain more than i lose by participating.

Re:Paris climate deal: US and China announce ratification by xbmcuser on Saturday September 03, 2016 @08:21AM (#12418922)
Well China started investing in renewables some time ago and are now adding almost half the world renewables. The reality is though climate change can't be changed or reversed by capitalism fast enough. And because of the financial crisis over the last few years the developed world probably doest have the money it needs to finance the developing worlds energy needs. The next 1-2 billion people from Asia Africa will start using electricity a few times more than what they are now and the developed world curtailing their emissions wont be enough.
Re:Paris climate deal: US and China announce ratification by jmfayard on Saturday September 03, 2016 @04:45PM (#12421108)
You are perfectly correct each person (or each state) following its self interest leads in this case logically to a slow motion disaster

Ethics, especially a la Kant, can help to address this shortcoming.

"Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law"

I like eating meal every day, but I cannot wish that this become the universal diet (especially of those 1b Indians). Therefore my ethical compass tell me to alter my food habits

Re:Paris climate deal: US and China announce ratification by GunboatDiplomat on Saturday September 03, 2016 @08:11AM (#12418899)
But it's a false dilemma. Ultimately, it's possible to reduce our emissions without reducing consumption, either of energy or resources.
Re:Paris climate deal: US and China announce ratification by TheSmiddy on Saturday September 03, 2016 @06:12PM (#12421497)
The coal lobby has done a good job of making renewables look like they're a significantly different way of life. At the end of the day your aircon will still run whether it's powered by coal, nuclear, solar, wind, hydro or literally anything else that can push electrons. Where the power comes from has very little effect on the utility of that power.