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Re:Startups turning to a funding tactic used by oil and gas ... by dilemma on Saturday September 03, 2016 @04:07AM (#12418260)
These loans aren't taken out to cover costs but to fund investment in new lines of business, or a 10-100x expansion of an existing one.

Since nobody in your industry buys millions of dollars worth of servers, you should consider doing it. You could create a new market which you own, or elevate yourself from someone who rents capacity to the company renting it out. It could be the business opportunity of your life.

Re:Startups turning to a funding tactic used by oil and gas ... by thrkw123456789 on Saturday September 03, 2016 @07:00AM (#12418713)
Is this sarcastic?

Borrowing millions of dollars at 20-30% to compete with some cash rich companies who already dominate the market seems crazy - (borrowing at 5% could be another matter).

Re:Startups turning to a funding tactic used by oil and gas ... by wpietri on Saturday September 03, 2016 @10:00AM (#12419214)
Depends on your target audience. I wouldn't want to compete with Amazon as a general proposition. But there may be some specific niche that isn't well served by Amazon. For example, there could be some piece of Tarsnap's infrastructure that is irritating/expensive to create but that other companies want to use.

Note, for example, that Dropbox gets "substantial economic value" from running their own hardware. [1] And Tarsnap is in the position to offer a backup-specific white label service that other entrepreneurs might rather pay to use than rebuild.

[1] http://www.wired.com/2016/03/epic-story-dropboxs-exodus-amaz...

Re:Startups turning to a funding tactic used by oil and gas ... by JDDunn9 on Saturday September 03, 2016 @10:38AM (#12419354)
Who said 30% interest rate? If banks are lending at 6%, than a 30% higher interest rate would be 7.8%.
Re:Startups turning to a funding tactic used by oil and gas ... by rlucas on Saturday September 03, 2016 @12:15PM (#12419731)
Hmm, maybe you mean 2x-10x expansion.

The world of 10x-100x expansion is the world of venture capital.

The specialty lending world of Lighter Capital is about attractive, not explosive, growth -- but at much lower risk of total failure for both entrepreneur and investor.

Re:Startups turning to a funding tactic used by oil and gas ... by dilemma on Saturday September 03, 2016 @06:16PM (#12421507)
You're right, 2-10x is a more realistic number!