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Re:News.YC Greasemonkey script to hide iPad articles by petercooper on Sunday April 04, 2010 @05:57PM (#1240896)
Filtering out stuff you don't want to read != sticking your head in the sand.

Except you don't know you don't want to read it if you're using something as crude as looking for a string in a headline. I maintain that blindly ignoring content that has a single mention of a particular term is sticking your head in the sand (but everyone's entitled to interpret the situation as they like!).

Your fictional app would likely rely upon categorization as an indicator. On news sites, content managers determine the interest areas for a story and you can then filter them. Stories that are really important will spill over to other categories (such as, on most news sites, the "main"/general category) and stories that seem to be about one topic but are really about another should, ideally, be categorized appropriately (e.g. "iPad Designer Jonathan Ive Dies" isn't an iPad story - crude example, but just to make a point).

Filtering out items based on a string of letters in a headline (as suggested in this case) is not as elegant or robust. You might filter out "football" but still be interested if the plane carrying the Dallas Cowboys went down wiping out the team. You might filter out "health care" to avoid political discussions on HN but miss out on a story about a healthcare entrepreneur. It's as crude as early spam filtering. (And like spam filtering, could be improved by software that analyzed the content of the destination pages.. but relying on the headline alone is too flaky.)

As a temporary measure to filter out a glut of stories (as with the iPad affair), it can work, but as a mid/long term strategy, filtering by headline is crude and prone to covering up stories you might actually find interesting. The quickest and most precise filtering device out there is the one connected to your eyes.

Re:News.YC Greasemonkey script to hide iPad articles by mike-cardwell on Sunday April 04, 2010 @07:40PM (#1241021)
The sort of filtering this script employs is the same sort of filtering you apply by not reading the titles of every news article on every news site each day.

There are countless articles on countless news sites that you would love to read, and by not attempting to filter out the articles which you don't want to read, you're missing out on them. You should stop sticking your head in the sand and start trying to read the news more efficiently.

Re:News.YC Greasemonkey script to hide iPad articles by petercooper on Sunday April 04, 2010 @08:10PM (#1241053)
You should stop sticking your head in the sand and start trying to read the news more efficiently.

That's always my goal, but throwing the baby out with the bathwater is a cavalier sort of "efficiency." As I previously discussed, context is crucial in filtering news and a regex on headlines is a poor way to infer it.

Our discussion, though, has missed that HN is a filter already - a contextual, human-powered one. I like what HN users vote up and find it an efficient way to get tech news. If HN users frequently voted up items I was not interested in, I should not frequent it.

Re:News.YC Greasemonkey script to hide iPad articles by mike-cardwell on Sunday April 04, 2010 @08:25PM (#1241072)
Given a theoretical million articles, it makes perfect sense to try and remove the articles which you're least likely to be interested in so you've a higher chance of seeing the articles which you will be interested in. You can't brain filter them all, so you will always end up applying some sort of automatic filter which is not context aware.
Re:News.YC Greasemonkey script to hide iPad articles by robotron on Monday April 05, 2010 @04:32PM (#1242974)
Why do you care if the rest of us read iPad articles? This makes no sense. Is it an extension of the Apple-controls-everything philosophy?