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Re:Cash Squeeze at Tesla, SolarCity by jonknee on Thursday September 01, 2016 @11:45AM (#12406221)
Wall Street has no problem with long term capital expenditures (bonds are at very low rates!), just when the parent company also does dumb stuff like burn up their very needed cash by buying an unrelated firm that is losing money very quickly (Solar City).
Re:Cash Squeeze at Tesla, SolarCity by Tloewald on Thursday September 01, 2016 @11:49AM (#12406275)
I don't think they're buying solar city, isn't it a pure stock swap?

The big issue is that SolarCity is barely hanging on while Tesla has been on a tear (at least PR wise), so hanging an anchor around its neck seems silly. Everyone was expecting Tesla to need to raise cash to scale model 3 production, so this wouldn't have been news is SolarCity weren't in the picture.

Re:Cash Squeeze at Tesla, SolarCity by jonknee on Thursday September 01, 2016 @01:29PM (#12407211)
So instead of issuing shares to raise capital for Tesla they are giving them to SCTY shareholders (of which Elon is the largest!) and then taking on Solar City's debts and hugely negative cash flow. As if that is not enough we're now back to Tesla needing more money and having to go raise it.

I think the thought process is if they needed cash so badly they shouldn't have just bought a bottomless money pit.

Re:Cash Squeeze at Tesla, SolarCity by kgwgk on Thursday September 01, 2016 @12:41PM (#12406752)
Do you think Facebook didn't buy WhatsApp either? Edit: there was a cash component, but it was 75% stock. The acquisition of Pixar by Disney is an example of a 100% stock payment.
Re:Cash Squeeze at Tesla, SolarCity by dragontamer on Thursday September 01, 2016 @12:48PM (#12406833)
> I don't think they're buying solar city, isn't it a pure stock swap?

Yes, but SolarCity is losing $300 million per quarter right now. Who do you think will pay that bill?

Tesla will, now that they "purchased" it. In fact, some companies sell themselves for for NEGATIVE dollars (aka, we'll pay you to take this failing business off our hands). Becoming the "owner" of a failing company means that you now have to pay for it.

Re:Cash Squeeze at Tesla, SolarCity by vkou on Thursday September 01, 2016 @12:28PM (#12406629)
TSLA stock is liquid, therefore Tesla giving away TSLA stock to SolarCity stock holders is buying SolarCity.
Re:Cash Squeeze at Tesla, SolarCity by Tloewald on Thursday September 01, 2016 @06:01PM (#12409227)
But SolarCity stock is also liquid so it's more like a currency exchange.