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Re:How I Used and Abused My Tesla – What a Tesla Looks Like ... by dirtyaura on Monday August 29, 2016 @04:01PM (#12384826)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but quick calculation indicates that Tesla using only energy from Cholla (one of the dirtiest plants in the US) would produce about the same amount of CO2 (13.6kg per 100km) as 5L/100km car (Ford Fiesta) would produce (12kg per 100km).

As you can probably improve your electricity mix quite easily, it sounds like that from fuel CO2 emission perspective, electric car is always at least as good choice as gasoline car.

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Re:How I Used and Abused My Tesla – What a Tesla Looks Like ... by mrswag on Monday August 29, 2016 @04:36PM (#12385094)
Once you factor in the environmental cost associated with production, I'm not sure it's as clear cut. Batteries are nasty.
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Re:How I Used and Abused My Tesla – What a Tesla Looks Like ... by hx87 on Monday August 29, 2016 @05:18PM (#12385434)
They can also be recycled almost indefinitely.
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Re:How I Used and Abused My Tesla – What a Tesla Looks Like ... by JoeAltmaier on Monday August 29, 2016 @05:19PM (#12385441)
I'm not aware that lithium batteries can be recycled at all?
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Re:How I Used and Abused My Tesla – What a Tesla Looks Like ... by hx87 on Monday August 29, 2016 @05:37PM (#12385567)
Lithium ion batteries have been recyclable for a while now-- Best Buy has receptacles for used ones. It's been slow to get off the ground because virgin production is still rather cheap.
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Re:How I Used and Abused My Tesla – What a Tesla Looks Like ... by JoeAltmaier on Monday August 29, 2016 @09:07PM (#12386670)
Hm. This article seems to say that no process is available yet. Perhaps they're not being 'recycled' but re-used? http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214993714...
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Re:How I Used and Abused My Tesla – What a Tesla Looks Like ... by hx87 on Tuesday August 30, 2016 @10:03AM (#12390207)
There is no process for recycling /automotive/ lithium ion batteries, but that's because their use is so recent--the first commercially available lithium ion EV (Tesla Roadster) wasn't released until 2008. However, EV batteries are essentially the same as commodity lithium ion batteries (e.g. stacks of 18650 cells that you can buy on Amazon), and those have been recycled for a while.
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