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Re:Court Finds Sheriff’s Raid to Find Blogger Who Criticized... by infogulch on Saturday August 27, 2016 @10:03AM (#12372370)
I'm surprised that the original warrants were signed in the first place.

And who the hell approved a raid? What happened to two police officers knocking on your door? Why are all suspects considered felons (the only offense class I can conceive of that could deserve a raid) for the purpose of serving a warrant? Do police pay for damages in cases where a raid is excessive force?

Re:Court Finds Sheriff’s Raid to Find Blogger Who Criticized... by finid on Saturday August 27, 2016 @10:34AM (#12372496)
> I'm surprised that the original warrants were signed in the first place.

No, no surprise there.

Cops/Sheriffs are not the only corrupt arm of the criminal justice system. The whole system is messed up.

Re:Court Finds Sheriff’s Raid to Find Blogger Who Criticized... by S_Daedalus on Saturday August 27, 2016 @12:17PM (#12372948)
It's a lot easier to get rid of a cop or a sheriff, than a judge too; no shock that the rot really sets in on the bench. Then, there's the reality that many judges are political appointees.
Re:Court Finds Sheriff’s Raid to Find Blogger Who Criticized... by sandworm101 on Saturday August 27, 2016 @11:46AM (#12372812)
> Do police pay for damages in cases where a raid is excessive force?

Generally speaking no. Even if it looks really bad and they honestly want to make amends, they wont as doing so may be seen as an admission of wrongdoing either usable in or encouraging of a lawsuit. As a general rule, damage done during the execution of a warrant will not be covered by the police or their insurance provider.

Re:Court Finds Sheriff’s Raid to Find Blogger Who Criticized... by S_Daedalus on Saturday August 27, 2016 @12:18PM (#12372953)
They're generally sued actually, and when they really fucked up they pay a LOT as a result.
Re:Court Finds Sheriff’s Raid to Find Blogger Who Criticized... by EdHominem on Saturday August 27, 2016 @02:12PM (#12373453)
> they pay a LOT as a result.

They don't pay a bit. We, on the other hand, pay and don't receive value for our money.

Re:Court Finds Sheriff’s Raid to Find Blogger Who Criticized... by S_Daedalus on Saturday August 27, 2016 @02:52PM (#12373627)
That... is a good point. I forgot that it's taxpayers suing ourselves.

Goddamn it.

Re:Court Finds Sheriff’s Raid to Find Blogger Who Criticized... by sandworm101 on Saturday August 27, 2016 @05:44PM (#12374320)
Except that many/most local governments are in turn covered by insurance. So suing them is not fundamentally different than suing a private citizen with similar insurance. Both costs are born by the pool of insurance purchasers, private and public.
Re:Court Finds Sheriff’s Raid to Find Blogger Who Criticized... by EdHominem on Monday August 29, 2016 @12:17PM (#12382906)
The insurance is likely owned by "us" anyways through our mutual funds, retirement plans, etc. And high insurance fees come out of our pocket directly as well by making such policies more expensive in the next city.

The issue though is that it's not the pockets of the guilty. Officers are almost entirely shielded from the legal and financial costs of the damage they do.

When we ask "Why do they behave like that?" the answer is because they can, and there's literally no reason for them not to. They're literally consequence free.

Re:Court Finds Sheriff’s Raid to Find Blogger Who Criticized... by S_Daedalus on Saturday August 27, 2016 @06:04PM (#12374384)
ITT: I learn just how pitifully limited and inaccurate my knowledge of insurance is. Is there a good place to learn more about this topic, online?
Re:Court Finds Sheriff’s Raid to Find Blogger Who Criticized... by vorotato on Saturday August 27, 2016 @10:05AM (#12372382)
It would seem that a raid is never excessive force :/
Re:Court Finds Sheriff’s Raid to Find Blogger Who Criticized... by brodie78382 on Sunday August 28, 2016 @09:54AM (#12376501)
> Do police pay for damages in cases where a raid is excessive force?

As one example, this happened near me last year: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/paramilitary-thugs-colorado-...

In fact, the whole story is a great representation of the concerns expressed in your comment - the PD literally blew up a house to catch a suspected shop lifter.

Edit: Looks like PD offered him $5,000 after the incident, and then he had to take them to federal court. Looks like the court proceedings are still going; how utterly insulting.

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/08/03/homeowner-sues-greenwoo...

Re:Court Finds Sheriff’s Raid to Find Blogger Who Criticized... by sixothree on Saturday August 27, 2016 @01:36PM (#12373295)
> I'm surprised that the original warrants were signed in the first place.

The warrant was signed by a judge who was not on duty at the time.