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Re:The NSA Is Hoarding Vulnerabilities by tptacek on Friday August 26, 2016 @12:54PM (#12367537)
To paraphrase someone smarter on these issues than I am: NSA's adversaries spend more on coffee than Cisco does on product security. When vulns like the ones we've seen are used on public networks, they are disclosed.

The question isn't whether they're disclosed to vendors. It's whether they're NOBUS flaws. Schneier is suggesting NSA views them as NOBUS. They do not.

Re:The NSA Is Hoarding Vulnerabilities by srtjstjsj on Saturday August 27, 2016 @12:25AM (#12370966)
you mean the NSA staff spends more on coffee than Cisco does on product security? otherwise, the claim makes no sense. the NSA's adversaries include huge swaths of non-security-conscious users, and includes Cisco.
Re:The NSA Is Hoarding Vulnerabilities by tptacek on Saturday August 27, 2016 @10:36AM (#12372510)
The NSA's adversaries include the rest of the world's largest SIGINT agencies.