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Re:Using attrs for everything in Python by Pitarou on Thursday August 25, 2016 @04:32PM (#12362253)
Please don't tell the C++ community that! We really don't want to encourage them.

To someone who uses Python every day, the extra cognitive load of `attr` is more than made up for by all the boilerplate it eliminates. But for beginners, behind-the-scenes magic is a real turn off.

I think that making `attr` an optional library is a fair compromise, but perhaps it would be a good idea to add a note to the library reminding the programmer not to use it if the code is likely end up in the hands of novices.

Re:Using attrs for everything in Python by crdoconnor on Friday August 26, 2016 @03:56PM (#12368880)
>To someone who uses Python every day, the extra cognitive load of `attr` is more than made up for by all the boilerplate it eliminates.

That's funny because the first thought I had when reading this was "this does not eliminate nearly enough boilerplate to justify using that much magic".

>But for beginners, behind-the-scenes magic is a real turn off.

It's a turn off for beginners and experts but a turn on for intermediates.