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Re:“How do I choose not to share my account information with... by geofft on Thursday August 25, 2016 @02:21PM (#12361202)
Federation and security is a hard problem. The code is there for anyone to use, but it's an entirely reasonable and prudent security decision to announce your lack of support for a forked version using the same servers.

(Also, does Telegram have a version without Google Play Services?)

Re:“How do I choose not to share my account information with... by erlehmann_ on Thursday August 25, 2016 @04:37PM (#12362287)
The XMPP ecosystem has federation, security and almost every client can talk to almost every server. If Moxie Marlinspike claims that interoperability does not work well in the context of instant messaging, I see this as him trying to manipulate the users so they do not judge him for his behaviour.
Re:“How do I choose not to share my account information with... by geofft on Thursday August 25, 2016 @04:43PM (#12362334)
The XMPP ecosystem doesn't have security anywhere comparable to what we're talking about (well-implemented, end-to-end, forward-secure, multi-device messaging).
Re:“How do I choose not to share my account information with... by kobayashi on Friday August 26, 2016 @09:12AM (#12365926)
>multi-device messaging

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that Signal supports this feature

Re:“How do I choose not to share my account information with... by y7 on Friday August 26, 2016 @09:43AM (#12366137)
It does, but it's beta and Android only: https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-desktop/
Re:“How do I choose not to share my account information with... by dest on Thursday August 25, 2016 @03:20PM (#12361683)
About Telegram: the fdroid version has no google dependencies, AFAIK