Re:Why Do We Judge Parents for Putting Kids at Perceived But...
by mc32 on Wednesday August 24, 2016 @12:21AM
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My anecdote is that poor people, perhaps because of necessity, do rely more on friends, neighbors and community quite a bit. Whether it's minding the kids, picking someone up, borrowing a car, some food, etc. Poor people don't have the luxury of being proud of their "independence" from others.
Re:Why Do We Judge Parents for Putting Kids at Perceived But...
by stcredzero on Wednesday August 24, 2016 @01:43AM
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The problem is that, then their support system is entirely formed from people who don't know how to work the system. To help out with income disparities, we need to get those communities plugged into the parts of society that know how to work the system and advance.
Re:Why Do We Judge Parents for Putting Kids at Perceived But...
by mc32 on Wednesday August 24, 2016 @02:12AM
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What poor people need is education --more specifically an altogether re-education of their children away from how their parents think in order to break the cycle of thinking the way poor people think.
I don't think that's palatable to most people --it kind of harkens to reeducation camps, etc. It means diverging their thought process from their parents' way of thinking. This applies to Appalachia, Detroit, Volgograd or Lagos.
Re:Why Do We Judge Parents for Putting Kids at Perceived But...
by stcredzero on Wednesday August 24, 2016 @12:59PM
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Networking, contacts, and community are also mechanisms through which people can learn. This is why isolating poor people together can reinforce the cycle of poverty.
it kind of harkens to reeducation camps, etc. It means diverging their thought process from their parents' way of thinking. This applies to Appalachia, Detroit, Volgograd or Lagos.
It's clearly not just the parents. It's the community in which people find themselves living in. Look at the examples of people who manage to raise their class standing. They usually do it by making contacts outside of their community.
I wouldn't let my kid do it here in US. Not because I wouldn't trust them or think it is dangerous. But because I am afraid what neighbors, school, CPS would do.
In grade school, my sister and I and our friend would sometimes spend the entire day in the woods in the dead of winter. The real danger in this country isn't the criminal and the bogeyman. The real danger in this country is the evaporation of real community and a broken pseudo-society of mutual disdain suspicion. Who is your real community? If you had a pet, who could you ask to watch your pet for a week? Who would you ask to watch your kids for an afternoon for no payment? That's your real community. Large numbers of Americans have no real community at all.
But apparently you are never safe from neighbors with an agenda.
Because they are "neighbors" and you are not in real community with them.