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Re:Organisms might be quantum machines by flukus on Thursday August 18, 2016 @11:19PM (#12317781)
I thought chemistry operated at a higher level, as in it doesn't care how or why a atoms are structured they way they are, they just deal with the results at a higher level of abstraction. Is this incorrect?
Re:Organisms might be quantum machines by pdonis on Thursday August 18, 2016 @11:56PM (#12317889)
> I thought chemistry operated at a higher level

"Chemistry" as you're using the term here is a name for a set of models made by humans, not something in actual atoms and molecules. The atoms and molecules don't know that they're supposed to be doing "chemistry" instead of "quantum stuff".

When I say chemistry is fundamentally dependent on quantum effects, I mean the things atoms and molecules actually do would be impossible without quantum effects. The very existence of atoms depends on quantum effects; in a purely classical world atoms would be impossible. The chemical properties of atoms--their valences, for example--require quantum mechanics to explain.

Often in human models of chemistry, the details of how things like valences of atoms are produced from quantum effects are left out. But that doesn't mean quantum effects aren't being seen when we observe atoms with particular valences, for example. It just means the details aren't explicitly present in those models.

Re:Organisms might be quantum machines by flukus on Friday August 19, 2016 @02:00AM (#12318222)
Thanks, I think. I really need to brush up on my understanding of chemistry.
Re:Organisms might be quantum machines by Noseshine on Friday August 19, 2016 @03:38AM (#12318491)
Take a course like "MITx: Introduction to Solid state Chemistry" [0] and while you won't be doing quantum physics except a very basic introduction you'll brush against it all the time.

Depends on what exactly you do in chemistry. Understanding structures like molecules and chemical bonds takes you deep. I f you only care about macro effects, like how to turn this input into that output in an industrial process than you move away from the low-level basics.

The same as in any field, you get to choose if you want to invent new algorithms or if you care about software architecture - both valid jobs for a CS person but it's different worlds.

[0] https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-solid-state-chemistr...