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Re:With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Pri... by r00fus on Wednesday August 17, 2016 @05:36PM (#12308678)
Re:With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Pri... by rasz_pl on Thursday August 18, 2016 @03:40AM (#12310945)
Jury is not out, shutup10 turns off "official' telemetry services. Problem is MS build in telemetry into everything now, explorer, cortana, edge, crypto service or dnscache, _everything_ calls home regularly ~once per hour during ordinary use.

Only way to 99.9% block telemetry is to switch blocking all outgoing by default in firewall and whitelist what you use. This still leaves DNS exfiltration route :(

Re:With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Pri... by r00fus on Thursday August 18, 2016 @01:54PM (#12314788)
Did you read the comments where, if you do block the standard ports, the telemetry system in Win10 goes all subversive botnet-like and starts connecting on random ports to random hosts in order to get out of the firewall?

Frightening.

Re:With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Pri... by Senji on Friday August 19, 2016 @02:59AM (#12318379)
Can you please provide a link?
Re:With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Pri... by rasz_pl on Friday August 19, 2016 @06:09AM (#12319013)
I think he talks about W10 ignoring hosts file and calling home using raw IPs if you block usual domains. This still gets blocked with firewall.

DNS is a problem tho, I dont know of any dns clients with per application whitelist functionality :( This means every program on the system can make dns queries.

Re:With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Pri... by Senji on Friday August 19, 2016 @02:58AM (#12318378)
Not if you run your own DNS server.
Re:With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Pri... by rasz_pl on Friday August 19, 2016 @06:11AM (#12319017)
Do you know any windows dns cache programs able to filter per application sending a query? Is it even possible in Windows to do that?

Something that would allow chrome.exe full access, but block all dns queries from svchost.exe process?

Re:With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Pri... by Senji on Friday August 19, 2016 @09:17AM (#12319725)
You would need a software firewall for that.( Komodo? ) Not a cache server. Though running your own dns server on top of that would be nice too.
Re:With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Pri... by rasz_pl on Saturday August 20, 2016 @06:44AM (#12325996)
afaik Windows firewall is not able to block loopback communications, can komodo?. I dont want to give up dns caching, and since I dont know of any way to firewall localhost traffic in windows I figured only way would be in dns caching program itself.

So far only way to prevent dns tunneling I can come up with involves giving up dnscache :(. To make up lost performance you could maybe run dnsmasq on the router, or in a virtual machine? or somehow force dnscache to listen on virtual network adapter?