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Re:Snowden: Hack of an NSA server is not unprecedented, publ... by marcosdumay on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @11:59AM (#12298290)
> But everyone just accepts that's the way it is and carries on with life because "at least it's not North Korea."

They aren't Brazil either, or even most places in Europe.

Were I an US citizen, I'd be very wary of people trying to fix Democracy¹. They have a pretty good quality of life, and any attempted change can go very badly very easily - the more "let's fix things" is the change, the easier it could go badly.

1 - Hell, I'm wary of them here at Brazil! Because, you know, we aren't North Korea either, nor Venezuela. That said, we recently got a very good and very safe fix applied - the trick is that nobody was claiming it was a fix for Democracy, it was some people "just doing their work" on unforeseen ways.

Re:Snowden: Hack of an NSA server is not unprecedented, publ... by pjc50 on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @12:13PM (#12298408)
Part of the question is the basic mechanics of democracy: does everyone actually get a vote, and does the count accurately reflect votes cast? "Fixing" that should be less controversial than it is.

Far too many voting machines are still insecure, and one of the candidates is pre-accusing the other of fixing the election.

Re:Snowden: Hack of an NSA server is not unprecedented, publ... by marcosdumay on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @01:04PM (#12298852)
But it is not whether it should be fixed that is controversial. It is how you fix it. And there's plenty of danger with most fixing procedures.

And yes, there's also some propaganda for not fixing it at all. That's what support voting machines (at least here). But, again, how do you fix the problem that makes propaganda viable?

For the specific problem of voting machines, candidates accusing others may be the best avenue for moving people in the correct direction.

Re:Snowden: Hack of an NSA server is not unprecedented, publ... by M2Ys4U on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @01:19PM (#12298938)
>Far too many voting machines are still insecure

And they always will be. It's impossible to have a secure voting machine.