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Re:Snowden: Hack of an NSA server is not unprecedented, publ... by 794CD01 on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @10:37AM (#12297713)
Whether the US is a force for good is a completely different argument than whether it's untrustworthy and/or undemocratic.
Re:Snowden: Hack of an NSA server is not unprecedented, publ... by altcognito on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @11:12AM (#12297966)
#1, Yes, I specifically called out his argument as being hollow, and supported only by an appeal to "everyone knows" - he's self selecting his audience.

Even within that audience which implicitly accepts the government is more directly engaged in protection of sovereignty via clandestine means against it's own citizens -- that audience should probably consider the goals of the sources.