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Re:Did Our Ancestors Become Bipedal So They Could Throw? by derefr on Sunday August 14, 2016 @04:08PM (#12287113)
Is there an evolutionary story for why T. Rex ended up bipedal with mostly-vestigial forelimbs? It works fine for their ecological niche, but I can't picture the evolutionary intermediates between them and a quadrupedal ancestor.
Re:Did Our Ancestors Become Bipedal So They Could Throw? by saalweachter on Sunday August 14, 2016 @06:31PM (#12287642)
Actually, there's a very simple reason: the T. Rex had stubby arms so it could have a big head.

The T. Rex started out bipedal, with functional arms -- you can pick that as its starting point, there are plenty of those guys running around in the fossil record. As its head got bigger and bigger, it became top-heavy: its back end had to balance its front end when running, or else it would just face plant constantly.

If I had to guess (I haven't actually looked into how much of this we have recovered from the fossil record; I just happen to have heard the reason above) the T. Rex's head probably got pretty big first -- for a while, bigger heads could be counterbalanced by bigger tails while still retaining normal-sized arms. But there's a limit to how big animals can get, so eventually the proto-T. Rex would have the biggest tail it could support.

By this point it would be firmly in the big head niche: its diet, survival strategy, and sexual selection would revolve around using its giant head and powerful mouth to just bite the crap out of everything and generally be awesome. Now come the tiny arms: even when its arms were still functional, they were less awesome than its giant head. Trading slightly smaller, slightly less functional arms for a slightly gianter, slightly more awesome head was a win at every point down the curve, until it was stuck with tiny, useless arms and a really awesome head.

Re:Did Our Ancestors Become Bipedal So They Could Throw? by bitwize on Sunday August 14, 2016 @04:42PM (#12287243)
The current thinking is that T. rex used its stubby arms to grasp prey when it went in for the kill. A similar line of thinking applies to the flapping wings of birds: earlier theropods flapped their forelimbs in order to help hoist themselves on top of their prey to make the killing bite.

Their common ancestors may have evolved bipedalism because forelimbs proved cumbersome when taking down large prey.

Re:Did Our Ancestors Become Bipedal So They Could Throw? by bobsil1 on Sunday August 14, 2016 @11:34PM (#12288476)
Mountain lions use front paws broader than rear to grasp large prey as they bite the neck. As large as elk and deer.
Re:Did Our Ancestors Become Bipedal So They Could Throw? by bitwize on Monday August 15, 2016 @01:10AM (#12288784)
We're dealing with larger than mountain lion scale beasties here. Fun fact about hippos: they can't jump. Like at all, unless they're submerged and can use the buoyancy of the water. The same is true of just about any modern tetrapod within that size range. If you're a tetrapod the size of a mountain lion or even a bengal tiger, you can still have speed, agility, and the ability to spring, pounce, and grapple with the forepaws. At T. rex scales, the square-cube law has something to say about that.