Re:The brave new world of robots and lost jobs
by sverige on Friday August 12, 2016 @09:50AM
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Work is exploitive only when you're not compensated adequately for it, or if you cannot leave that job voluntarily. And I assume that by "people who don't work for someone else," you are referring to people who still work rather than, say, landowners who collect rents whose main work is to go to the bank to make a deposit.
People can be both ends and means and be quite content. Personally, I think there is too much emphasis on people being ends unto themselves in the current culture. Madonna is a great example of this. She ceased to be entertaining more than 30 years ago, yet I still come across news snippets about her. Why?
Re:The brave new world of robots and lost jobs
by Drakim on Friday August 12, 2016 @10:08AM
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> People can be both ends and means and be quite content. Personally, I think there is too much emphasis on people being ends unto themselves in the current culture.
That's because society is really nothing but a lot of people working together in an alliance. If we didn't make people themselves the end they would have no reason to participate in society.
Re:The brave new world of robots and lost jobs
by Drakim on Friday August 12, 2016 @10:06AM
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Does humans have any value outside of what they can offer to corporations? Would there even be any point to keeping humans around?
Re:The brave new world of robots and lost jobs
by eli_gottlieb on Friday August 12, 2016 @02:32PM
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It works the other way around: do corporations have any value outside what they can offer to humans? Is there any point to keeping corporations around?
I. am. a. person. I want... proooductive. I want... puurpose. I will. Take the orders. From a capital-supplier. To proooduce economic vallll-ue.
I. am. Totally. Not. a robot.
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Seriously, though? People want to be exploited because they need a wage-paying employer to give them purpose? Then where are all the people who don't work for someone else getting this much-vaunted "purpose", eh? Whatever happened to all that individualism stuff, about people being ends rather than means?