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Re:I Just Drove Eight Hours on Tesla Autopilot by hueving on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @09:41PM (#12265854)
Read the post-mortem of the Air France flight from Brazil to Paris. The pilots did not even know the basic error recovery conditions of flying the plane they were in (recognizing dual input, recognizing a stall) because they so rarely flew the plane. Auto pilot can handle navigation to destination, lining up with the runway after being given the approach vectors by the pilot that he/she received from ATC.

If auto pilot in Tesla were used like auto pilots in modern commercial air travel, it would cover 95% of the operation time of the cars.

Re:I Just Drove Eight Hours on Tesla Autopilot by mikeash on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @09:46PM (#12265874)
One pilot, singular, did not know how to recover. The other two did. The one who was at the controls attempted to perform a correct recovery. He was thwarted by the unbelievably idiotic design of the Airbus control system, in which conflicting inputs are simply averaged, and the only indication that something strange is happening is a warning light.

Edit: regarding the pilot who did the wrong thing, I don't think it's fair to say that he didn't know how to recover, either. He almost certainly knew how to recognize and recover from a stall. He was a glider pilot, where stalls are a matter of course. It seems that he panicked, which prevented him from thinking clearly and taking the proper actions. People do that sometimes, and a big reason you have two pilots is so the other one can step in when one of them gets stupid. The fatal flaw with the Airbus was the system which failed to adequately inform the other pilot of the first pilot's stupid actions. (In any sensibly designed aircraft, the two sets of controls will move together, providing physical feedback of each pilot's inputs to the other pilot.)

Re:I Just Drove Eight Hours on Tesla Autopilot by hueving on Sunday August 14, 2016 @09:47AM (#12285540)
>and the only indication that something strange is happening is a warning light.

In addition to the warning light there is an audio warning "DUAL INPUT" and tactile feedback (stick vibration). The fact that the pilots did not recognize this condition feeds into my point about them not flying the plane nearly often enough to actually understand how it behaves in anything other than an ideal condition.