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Re:Everyone is quitting by exit on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @07:48AM (#12260927)
people have far less freedom in deciding where to work than we fool ourselves into believing
Re:Everyone is quitting by cm3 on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @08:00AM (#12260988)
I know very well how little of the flexibility exists for most developers around the world, but I explicitly asked how Amazon can be a good opportunity in Seattle. I'm curious what the benefits are, since there are so many negative reports from insiders. There are many companies you'd expect to read similar reports about and don't, so either there's a negative Amazon press union somewhere, maybe those working in warehouses, or Amazon's office workplace is really as bad as people say.
Re:Everyone is quitting by johnmarius on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @07:52AM (#12260945)
you mean, amazon is better than whatever other places people could work instead?
Re:Everyone is quitting by quantumhobbit on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @08:01AM (#12260993)
Or they thought it would be better than their previous place and were stuck once there. Or it was the only place to give them an offer. Or the money was too good to pass up despite the abuse. Or they accepted the abuse for the name brand on their resume.
Re:Everyone is quitting by pascalxus on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @02:08PM (#12263696)
Or, they have a huge mortgage to pay off and are in danger of losing their house. That'll keep people in an abusive relationship for a long time.
Re:Everyone is quitting by exit on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @08:25AM (#12261104)
this, + a lot of job searching happens in a desperate daze.
Re:Everyone is quitting by VLM on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @08:54AM (#12261265)
Maybe they're trying to show off how tough they are. Nobody ever made the mistake of thinking military basic training was an all inclusive vacation. Its plausible.

In an absolute sense it may be a hellish place to work and the average turnover might for the sake of argument be 6 months. But lets say you have a job hopping stain on the resume and you gut out 9 months of amazon, well, that's fifty percent longer than most survive, that employee must have a cast iron stomach and be a focused dedicated team player, etc etc. Paradoxically Amazon being hell on earth is a benefit in that scenario, obviously you don't want to waste your life on HR nonsense, and if you can prove you're tough in 9 months instead of 2 years, well, thats great. Actually, make working conditions worse at Amazon if at all possible so "tough guys" can prove themselves in only two months instead of the made up 9 months.

Re:Everyone is quitting by ex_amazon_sde on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @08:30AM (#12261131)
Ex amzn here: most of my ex colleagues agree that claims regarding opportunities for growth and so on are massively exaggerated by managers and HR.
Re:Everyone is quitting by st3v3r on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @08:50PM (#12265679)
Well, up until the stories started coming out, Amazon was (and still kind of is) a "big name". So if one of their recruiters comes calling, most people were willing to follow. They'd get their salary and stock golden handcuffs, and by the time they realized the truth, it's too late. You can't leave for a while because of the handcuffs, and what it looks like to leave an employer, especially one like Amazon, within 6 months to a year.