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Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by denzil_correa on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @11:33AM (#12255278)
> They are welcome to try. And I am welcome to try harder to block them.

Technically, Facebook could insert news feed ads like a post from one of your friend (assume that the friend has liked some page or organization). It could be tough to distinguish between ads and posts much like native advertising.

Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by deanCommie on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @01:08PM (#12256066)
That was what I was referring to here: > Facebook is already full of advertising disguised as content. From sponsored posts to content from things you "like". So I'm kind of surprised they need to go out of their way to explicitly announce that they will be disguising ads. They already have the power to inject it in the middle of content invisibly.
Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by Azkar on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @02:07PM (#12256555)
But Facebook doesn't get any cut of a sponsored post. (meaning a company paid an individual to write a post)
Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by dragonwriter on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @02:11PM (#12256596)
> But Facebook doesn't get any cut of a sponsored post.

"Sponsored Stories" and "Promoted Posts" (one of which I expect is what was meant by "sponsored post") are the names of specific kinds of Facebook ads.

Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by mattmanser on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @12:13PM (#12255612)
It's a legal requirement in most countries to clearly distinguish ads from content.
Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by SilasX on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @08:31PM (#12258689)
Distinguish them to human viewers, not to computers. If the aggregate effect of all the CSS and element classes is to make ads look one way and non-ads look a different way (each with slight variations), it's an AI-complete problem infer an answer to "given these elements and this CSS sheet, which subset of them looks different and add-like to a human?"
Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by robrenaud on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @10:58PM (#12259233)
Is it an AI-complete problem to do email spam classification? Why is determining if a facebook post is an ad or not so different than spam classification?
Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by SilasX on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @12:12AM (#12259463)
It's AI complete to do it with human level accuracy, yes. If you don't mind blocking random friends' posts, you can craft the ad blocker to remove them all.
Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by mayneack on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @01:02PM (#12256012)
I actually created a custom adblock filter to block the whole news section. They already show "news" about stuff like prime day sales, so it might as well be advertising.
Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by chillydawg on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @01:19PM (#12256147)
Care to share?
Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by mayneack on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @12:28PM (#12262936)
here's my facebook filters. I don't really do this systematically, I just use the ublock element picker until I'm happy. I think you probably want the trending topics one.

  ! 7/5/2016, 11:08:51 AM https://www.facebook.com/
  www.facebook.com###pagelet_trending_tags_and_topics > ._5mym > ._5spf._2sns 
  
  ! 7/5/2016, 11:09:01 AM https://www.facebook.com/
  www.facebook.com###u_jsonp_3_0
  
  ! 7/5/2016, 11:09:09 AM https://www.facebook.com/
  www.facebook.com###u_jsonp_3_1  
  
  ! 7/5/2016, 11:09:13 AM https://www.facebook.com/
  www.facebook.com###rightCol > ._5v6d._5rzs > ._64a > div:nth-of-type(2)
  
  ! 7/5/2016, 11:09:23 AM https://www.facebook.com/
  www.facebook.com###rightCol
Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by bbradley406 on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @05:46PM (#12257926)
I'd like to mention News Feed Eradicator here - not only does what its name implies, but it adds a motivational quote in the empty space. The quotes are usually about goals, procrastination, etc and it's saved me a lot of (potentially) wasted time.
Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by mgbmtl on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @11:40AM (#12255341)
Ads already affect the experience significantly, this would do so even more.

(not that I use Facebook, but Tumblr for example, has extremely annoying repetitive offensive ads)

Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by ulucs on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @07:44PM (#12258462)
Do you remember the time when staff broke the audio ads and they kept looping with no way to stop whatsoever?

And people still go on about blocking ads being unethical

Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by _RPM on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @01:07PM (#12256056)
I'd bet their terms allow them to impersonate your own friends.
Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by maxxxxx on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @02:48PM (#12256887)
Sounds like a good application for AI to detect ads.
Re:Facebook will force advertising on ad-blocking users by WalterSear on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @03:07PM (#12257011)
You wouldn't even even need that. Just a methods for identifying content and aggregating users 'votes' on them. Reach critical mass and start hiding it.