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Re:It’s hard work printing nothing by ensiferum on Monday August 08, 2016 @06:27PM (#12251273)
I think not a single actual application is completely well formed. They all work on luck. Especially in the embedded world. Btw, my android just rebooted.
Re:It’s hard work printing nothing by smilekzs on Monday August 08, 2016 @07:45PM (#12251581)
"In the embedded world" covers a huge area, including mission-critical avionics code, which likely has much higher safety standard than, say, Android.
Re:It’s hard work printing nothing by hexane360 on Monday August 08, 2016 @10:44PM (#12252240)
Although from hearing about the Apollo Guidance Computer, it's just as much of a miracle they were able to get it to work without any debugging or compilers, with basically one shot to write the program to ROM.
Re:It’s hard work printing nothing by roberthensing on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @06:13AM (#12253581)
Well they put in an effort of 1400 man years for just the software. They even built an interpreter, because (flight/trajectory) requirements were changing all the time.

Also: "The highest level of testing was performed with a high fidelity digital simulation of the computer, spacecraft hardware, and mission environment."

http://klabs.org/history/history_docs/mit_docs/1711.pdf

Re:It’s hard work printing nothing by swah on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @07:41AM (#12253858)
And the architecture of the whole system is commonly an infinite while loop.
Re:It’s hard work printing nothing by smilekzs on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @12:45PM (#12263100)
Not necesarily. RTOS is gaining market.
Re:It’s hard work printing nothing by voltagex_ on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @12:16AM (#12252593)
If you're interested, the next time your phone crashes like that, /proc/last_kmesg (or similar) may tell you the reason.

Whether or not this is acceptable for software and hardware to have gotten this unreliable is another question entirely.

Re:It’s hard work printing nothing by tsukikage on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @03:35AM (#12253142)
"Complex systems usually operate in failure mode", (c) John Gall
Re:It’s hard work printing nothing by r00fus on Monday August 08, 2016 @10:48PM (#12252251)
Wow. How do you put up with that kind of behavior from such a mission critical device like a phone?
Re:It’s hard work printing nothing by tener on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @02:12AM (#12252898)
You don't die when your phone reboots.
Re:It’s hard work printing nothing by pestaa on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @03:23AM (#12253104)
Parent was sarcastic.
Re:It’s hard work printing nothing by r00fus on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @02:50PM (#12256898)
Actually I wasn't. If my phone had the habit of rebooting while I was on a conference call/webex, I might endanger a contract or lose a customer.

For me, my phone is mission critical.