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Re:Universal Basic Income Is a Neoliberal Plot to Make You P... by bryanlarsen on Monday August 08, 2016 @12:49PM (#12249100)
"Actually, it does; neoliberalism rests on the theoretical optimality of ideal markets in maximizing experienced utility."

Huh? Neoliberalism started as the rejection of the pure laissez-faire policies of Mises. It promotes state intervention in the markets.

Re:Universal Basic Income Is a Neoliberal Plot to Make You P... by dragonwriter on Monday August 08, 2016 @12:58PM (#12249179)
> Huh? Neoliberalism started as the rejection of the pure laissez-faire policies of Mises.

I think you are confusing the mid-20th-century (1930s-1960s) use of "neoliberal" with the late-20th-century-to-current (1980s-and-later) use. The term basically fell out of use and was resurrected with a completely different meaning.

Re:Universal Basic Income Is a Neoliberal Plot to Make You P... by bryanlarsen on Monday August 08, 2016 @02:22PM (#12249803)
The 80s resurrection was associated with Bill Clinton and The New Republic, both highly interventionist.
Re:Universal Basic Income Is a Neoliberal Plot to Make You P... by dragonwriter on Monday August 08, 2016 @02:42PM (#12249948)
> The 80s resurrection was associated with Bill Clinton

It was associated more with Pinochet in Chile and the US policy preference which favored Pinochet-like figures.

(Clinton in the 1990s saw the adoption of the new term "Third Way" for something which was somewhat similar to the mid-20th-century use of "neoliberal" -- and quite distinct from the then-recent resurrection of the term -- though the contemporary left-wing social and right-wing economic positions it was synthesizing -- particularly the left-wing social positions -- were somewhat different than those of mid-20th Century neoliberals; though there is a connection to the 1980s definition of neoliberalism, since the then-current right-wing economic position that was key in the 1990s Third Way was the new, 1980s-definition, neoliberalism. But 1990s [and later] Third Way-ism isn't the defining instance of 1980s-and-later neoliberalism, its just the most politically left-wing movement incorporating some elements of 1980s-and-later neoliberalism.)