Re:Nervous about nukes again? Here’s what you need to know a...
by mabo on Thursday August 04, 2016 @10:55AM
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> When has the US ever brought down a civilian airliner?
It has happened: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
How is a training exercise the US's fault? This was a NATO operation in Europe. At the time we werent speaking to Russia very much. Military exercises happen all the time between many countries.
Lets not forget that Russia had just shot down a civilian airliner that had a US congressman on board.[1] Could you imagine if the US brought down a plane with Russian politicians on it during the cold war. When has the US ever brought down a civilian airliner? Russia just did this again last year over Ukraine.[2]
>That said, nuclear weapons are not a deterrent. Unless you're a sociopathic caveman, condemning all of humanity to death just because your nation state's integrity is at risk is an unimaginable atrocity. It's the ultimate war crime. Threatening the use of nuclear weapons is holding all of mankind (alive and future) hostage -- it's frankly disgusting.
I understand your sentiment but North Korea and Iran are currently trying to develop Nukes for this sole purpose. Your pointing all your fingers at the US but the fact is everyone else is either doing it or trying to do it.
Not to mention Russia is annexing sovereign nations.[3][4] I am not saying this meaning we should start a war with Russia but when the US "invades" somewhere we do not annex the country. The Iraq war was a huge mistake but maybe if we stayed a little longer ISIS its possible would never have happened. Unfortunately politics came into play way after the mistake. In no way am I trying to make excuses.
Here are some fresh examples of Chinese and Russian/Chinese military exercises in a disputed area.[5] Another example from 2 days ago where they are shooting missiles. [6]
Everyone wants to point fingers at the US when their own governments are either actively doing the same things, or making deals with the US to do the same thing. Spying on communications has been going on since WW2 and even before.
[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007
[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17
[3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_intervention_...
[4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War#Aftermath
[5]http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2016/07/28/south...
[6]http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/08/02/asia-pacific/chi...