When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It All

Re:When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It... by danbruc on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @02:57PM (#12220505)

I really dislike this tone of China acting fundamentally badly. It's their country, they can do whatever the heck they want. If they want a local replacement for everything already existing outside of Chine, so be it. If you just let established big players have all the cake, chances for success of local competitors become pretty slim.

Stealing trade secrets if of course not okay, but that is more of a theoretical argument, the west probably has his fingers equally deep in the Chinese cookie jar. If you make agreements and China later unilaterally breaks them, that is of course also not okay.

But investors don't seem to care, it's not that nobody knows what to expect, but the lure of huge profits seems to win again and again.

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Re:When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It... by ryanobjc on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @03:15PM (#12220657)

"stealing of trade secrets [...] is more of a theoretical argument"

I just wanted to point out this pretty amazing sentence.

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Re:When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It... by danbruc on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @03:20PM (#12220693)

What is so amazing about this sentence?

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Re:When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It... by jgroch on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @03:50PM (#12220941)

in theory it's stealing something very very very abstwact?

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Re:When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It... by danbruc on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @03:55PM (#12220983)

It is of course theft, my point was that I assume the west is also taking whatever they can get so that it would be hypocritical to blame China for doing it.

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Re:When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It... by 6stringmerc on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @04:08PM (#12221079)

Eh, that's kind of rationalizing away the threat posed by China's habitual targeting of US military tech, specifically in aviation.

I'll believe China has corrected its dirty sourcing ways when they build their own reliable Mach 2 Fighter Jet from scratch without reading Lockheed's homework first.

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Re:When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It... by danbruc on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @04:21PM (#12221172)

Where is the difference to what the USA and USSR respectively Russia did and probably still do to each other? Or the USA allegedly still spying on Airbus? If everybody does it, why only blame China?

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Re:When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It... by dtemp on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @03:22PM (#12220711)

As someone who supports strong Net Neutrality and a free internet, I'm obviously extremely against the way they are manipulating their network. Redirecting Google to Baidu, slowing them down, etc, not to mention the rest of the manipulations of the Great Firewall. I don't give them a free pass that they can "do whatever the heck they want." A free internet is a human rights issue. All citizens of the world deserve to be on a neutral network with no blocking, redirecting, throttling, or proxying.

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