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Re:Verizon: We Can't Become Dumb Pipes by mikelward on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @12:33AM (#12215600)
In my apartment, I could only get ADSL1. How is that even still a thing?

ADSL2+ would be close to Comcast's affordable cable internet plans, and thus interesting competition.

AT&T wouldn't offer anything better than ADSL1 either, so I guess nobody's investing in the copper plain old telephone system.

Re:Verizon: We Can't Become Dumb Pipes by PeterisP on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @05:27AM (#12216735)
It's limited by the distance and quality of the copper connecting you to their system.

The only thing that can improve this limit is pulling a new wire. The other providers can't do anything different because their ADSL would be piggybacking of the exact same physical wire.

If someone's going to pull new wire, then there's no reason to not make it an optic wire and skip the copper, since you can provide all services (including landline phone) over that.

So yes, of course, in that sense nobody's investing in the copper plain old telephone system, and never ever will be.