Re:Police had woman’s Facebook deactivated during standoff
by trvrsalom on Tuesday August 02, 2016 @10:52PM
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As nice as it would be to have a reliable nonlethal alternative to firearms, there simply are no nonlethal weapons capable of stopping someone who is presenting an immediate threat. Tranquilizers and anesthesia are administered by an anesthesiologist, a doctor trained to determine a dosage based on a person's body mass. Too much of a dose, or even administering it too quickly can cause serious complications, or even death. Even under the controlled environment of an operating room 1/20 patients die under full anesthesia a year.
Sadly, the most reliable method of stopping a person presenting a threat is with a firearm.
Re:Police had woman’s Facebook deactivated during standoff
by rfrey on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @12:25AM
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Could you clarify what you mean by 1/20 patients dying? I looked at http://patient.info/health/anaesthesia-death-or-brain-damage and it said the risk of death (England and Wales) was 1/100,000 full anesthetics.
Re:Police had woman’s Facebook deactivated during standoff
by pyromine on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @12:53AM
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Definitely questioning that 1/20 figure, I had full anesthesia with a surgery earlier this year and I'm pretty sure I'd be informed of that kind of risk.
Re:Police had woman’s Facebook deactivated during standoff
by walrus01 on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @01:05AM
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For reference, what happens when you use "knock out gas" in a contained space:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisi...
Re:Police had woman’s Facebook deactivated during standoff
by dTal on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @07:31AM
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...everyone's reliably incapacitated, and most people survive? (potentially everyone with adequate medical care which was not provided in that situation)
That seems strictly better than shooting to kill.
Re:Police had woman’s Facebook deactivated during standoff
by pavel_lishin on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @09:58AM
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130 out of 850 people died. That's a 1 in 6 casualty rate - about what you'd get playing Russian roulette.
Re:Police had woman’s Facebook deactivated during standoff
by duaneb on Tuesday August 02, 2016 @11:16PM
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I mean nukes are reliable too. Doesn't mean they should be used. The culture of lethal force means innocent people die.
Re:Police had woman’s Facebook deactivated during standoff
by roywiggins on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @01:46PM
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"Sleeping gas" isn't safe. Look up the Moscow theater hostage crisis.
A dose enough to knock out an adult might easily kill a child.
Downside could be lawsuites against the police for "damages" that the sleep gas caused.