Re:Verizon: We Can't Become Dumb Pipes
by selectodude on Tuesday August 02, 2016 @08:07PM
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Most large cities in the world use combined sewer systems, so that's definitely not a US infrastructure thing.
In Chicago, old lead pipes are actually becoming an issue due to the city replacing the pipes themselves. Can't win 'em all.
Re:Verizon: We Can't Become Dumb Pipes
by snowwrestler on Tuesday August 02, 2016 @06:23PM
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U.S. broadband speed and cost lag other industrialized nations too. The only general lesson here is that the U.S. is big and infrastructure is expensive.
Does speed lag? Akamai says otherwise.
Re:Verizon: We Can't Become Dumb Pipes
by snowwrestler on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @02:24AM
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Your comment made me go look it up. Q1 2016 Akamai report ranks the U.S. 16th for average download speed. ZDnet currently ranks the U.S. 41st for average speed on their broadband speed test though. Both are obviously non-random samples, but Akamai probably has a less skewed distribution.
I thought it was interesting that for the % of homes with at least 4mbps service, Akamai ranked the U.S. 44th globally at 88%. That's another way to look at infrastructure: how many folks have broadband at all?
Whether these numbers count as "lagging" is in the eye of the beholder, obviously. We're not top ten in any category.
See my post to the other reply. We're ahead of Canada, Australia, and the other big, economically diverse European countries. I don't think that counts as lagging.
Re:Verizon: We Can't Become Dumb Pipes
by TeMPOraL on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @01:37AM
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Doesn't it? I thought it's common knowledge the US has the worst Internet infrastructure out of all first world countries. The prices I see mentioned here for residential connections seem to confirm that. It also seems that download caps for residential connections are a thing there, which is a practice I personally consider barbaric.
Akamai's State of the Internet always shows average connection speeds in the US being faster than the UK, France, Spain, and Germany. The dense northeastern states are as fast as the Netherlands, Switzerland, etc. 5 US states have more than half of connections above 15 Mbps, while only one European country does ( Norway ). It is more expensive, though.
DSL is still the primary broadband technology in the UK, Germany, France, and Spain, while cable is in the US: http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/fast-fiber-optic-broadband-sprea...
Flint is an extreme example, but almost all municipal water systems are a disaster. In Atlanta, the sewer system dumps raw sewage in the Chattahoochee when it rains. In Chicago, old lead pipes are poisoning kids. It happens because rates are set by elected boards, not by markets, and because municipalities are not forced to bear the external costs of poor infrastructure.