Re:The vanishing civility: The game of jerks, bozos and assh...
by chongli on Monday August 01, 2016 @05:55PM
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I think half of the reason why HN has succeeded to a degree has to do with the niche subject matter. This approach doesn't work on more general forums such as the large subreddits or twitter.
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Re:The vanishing civility: The game of jerks, bozos and assh...
by kiba on Monday August 01, 2016 @06:03PM
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I don't think that's true. HN is not about some specific subjects.
We discussed everything from the Iraqi war to brexit to programming languages, etc.
Re:The vanishing civility: The game of jerks, bozos and assh...
by wutbrodo on Monday August 01, 2016 @11:46PM
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While true, I think it has more to do with the way the relative niche-ness of HN shapes the community. The average person who comments on an Iraq war thread in HN is not selected from the same sample as the average person who comments on an Iraq war thread across all fora. HN consists of enough niche topics that the average person doesn't want to hang out here and make an account just to jump in on random Iraq war or Brexit threads (the current frontpage has about 25/30 tech-focused topics, many of which are beyond esoteric for most people). This shapes the community in a way that affects the make-up of the commenters on even such politically-charged threads.
Re:The vanishing civility: The game of jerks, bozos and assh...
by ghaff on Tuesday August 02, 2016 @05:58AM
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Right. And if there is a thread on the Iraq War or Brexit, I'll pretty much guarantee that it's going to be heavily weighted with arguments and comments--mostly reflecting the talking points of a particular political perspective--that have been made a thousand times before. Plus a good smattering of "F so-and-so."
Re:The vanishing civility: The game of jerks, bozos and assh...
by jonahx on Monday August 01, 2016 @08:32PM
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I agree with your conclusion, but the common thread I see is more the type of person than the subject matter. I don't mean that HN's audience is homogenous across some simple metric, but even among its vastly different members I see a shared respect of logical reasoning and evidence-based argument. That, and just generally smart people, are the hallmarks of the culture here for me (at least the positive part of it).
Re:The vanishing civility: The game of jerks, bozos and assh...
by chongli on Monday August 01, 2016 @10:19PM
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Right, and the subject matter (at least at the outset) has a large influence on the culture that develops. Challenging subject matter tends to attract people who share those traits.
Re:The vanishing civility: The game of jerks, bozos and assh...
by intended on Monday August 01, 2016 @11:40PM
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Niche subject matter is a barrier of entry allowing only a specific subset/types of person in. To be precise a certain type of personality self-selects to find a site like HN.
That fact alone makes a significant impact on moderation.