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Re:Ask HN: Examples of elegant, non-trivial Smalltalk? by richardwhiuk on Friday July 29, 2016 @12:51PM (#12188095)
Just because it isn't what Alan Kay intended doesn't make what emerged not Object orientated programming. Usage defines the meaning of words, and when people use object orientated programing, they do mean as implemented in languages which did escape Xerox Parc...
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Re:Ask HN: Examples of elegant, non-trivial Smalltalk? by mikelevins on Friday July 29, 2016 @09:24PM (#12191196)
On the one hand, you are of course correct that the meanings of words are defined by usage.

On the other hand, that observation entirely misses Alan Kay's point.

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Re:Ask HN: Examples of elegant, non-trivial Smalltalk? by richardwhiuk on Monday August 01, 2016 @09:56AM (#12202371)
My point was there it isn't necessarily particular imperative to move towards a language which has a pure implementation of object-orientated programming on a mere 'Alan Kay wasn't thinking of this' point, especially given in the real world we have concrete evidence that such a language has never escaped an academic setting.
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