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Re:Turkish academics: Remain silent or risk all by the_af on Friday July 29, 2016 @11:37AM (#12187516)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the HDP (and other anti-Erdogan political parties, if I understood the news correctly) oppose the latest coup? How could this be, if they believed Erdogan was such a major threat to democracy?
Re:Turkish academics: Remain silent or risk all by akiselev on Friday July 29, 2016 @12:29PM (#12187925)
Just because they are the opposition doesn't mean that they would take power in the event of a coup, which creates huge political and social upheaval, especially with the way the Turkish military does it historically. The last time they led a coup, in 1980, over half a million people were arrested and the political board was entirely reshuffled.

The opposition may not have much power right now but they'd have none at all if the military took over so it's all about theit survival instinct.

Re:Turkish academics: Remain silent or risk all by the_af on Friday July 29, 2016 @01:45PM (#12188483)
Fully understood. I'm Latin American and believe me, I have no love at all for military coups.

My point was, if Erdogan is such a threat to democracy, how come his political opponents -- such as the pro-Kurdish HDP and leftist parties -- didn't support this military coup, which was allegedly in favor of liberty and secularism and everything good that Erdogan seems to be against? Maybe these opposition parties were aware that military coups are seldom democratic, are often followed by arbitrary imprisonment and summary executions, and maybe it wasn't obvious that this rebel army faction was a better and more democratic alternative to Erdogan?

Re:Turkish academics: Remain silent or risk all by akiselev on Friday July 29, 2016 @02:00PM (#12188605)
A sibling to my last reply states it best: coups are risky and if the opposition chose the wrong side they'd be the first to go in a large scale purge. The resulting political landscape would be significantly worse for everyone. If the plotters had managed to capture Erdogan early on in the attempt and one of the coup leaders went on national television to show Erdogan's dismembered head then maybe, maybe the opposition could have gone along without taking an unacceptable risk.
Re:Turkish academics: Remain silent or risk all by vkou on Friday July 29, 2016 @12:28PM (#12187914)
If they mutely oppose the coup, before it concludes, and the coup wins, then they might well not get the worst of it. They can also do a 180 after the fact - the coup will be too busy purging the AKP.

If they support the coup, this undermines their legitimacy, and in the likely case that Erdogan wins, they will immediately be purged, along with the coup planners. Of course, that can happen regardless.

There's an old Soviet joke about this - three men are in a cell, and try to figure out why they are there. It turns out that one criticized a minister, another praised that same minister, and the third is that minister.