In a reply above I admit that I did not think about/realize that I was not talking about US citizens. That changes the equation entirely. I never made a moral judgment against these guys. I simply that if they are knowingly doing something that is illegal then they just might wind up in jail.
Disregard human rights? Are you serious? Wow. I read and re-read what I've written and I still don't see that. I guessing you have misunderstood something I've said, but rather point out that I was vague in some way you use diagnosis bias to infer things that I've never said. I'm betting that were interpreting "go away" differently.
Re:Wikileaks: Something is up
by jodrellblank on Thursday March 25, 2010 @01:31PM
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I interpret "go away" as meaning security agencies, guantanamo, water boarding, detained without trial, rendition to countries where a bit of the old ultra violence can happen with plausible deniability, that kind of thing.
Not "arested, tried and sentenced". If that's what you meant then that's different - but it doesn't address whether it's right and fair for that to happen, only that you think it should happen because the current legal system says it should.
The law which they didn't agree to abide by in the first place. Born into a country with a law you don't agree on enforced upon you, why should you stick to it if you both disagree with it and agree to take the consequences?
You seem to be arguing that it's bad simply because it's illegal, which is both circular (it's bad because it's bad), and annoyingly naive (respect authority for no other reason than it's authoritative).
> The ramifications of doing so with respect to hacking the encryption algorithm could possibly cause far greater damage that the release of the video itself
You have a better argument here, but one I disagree with - did you miss the last decade of XP security holes? Security by obscurity isn't a strong defense. If it's weak enough for ordinary people to break, the intelligence agencies of the world who care would make mincemeat of it.
> The point I'm really trying to make is that they are actively trying to acquire and release classified information, which is direct disregard for the law. If they were to "go away"
The hypocritical point you are trying to make is that you respect the law like a good citizen, and because they don't respect the law in the same way as you do that makes them scum who are unworthy of compassion, and as a result you'll happily become like them and disgregard your support for equality and human rights laws so they can suffer, while still feeling superior to them because you abide the law, while at the same time you are not doing so.
> What kind of society have we come to where it is revered to break the law in order to exact some change on our government?
What kind of society have we come to where people are unable to consider that 'law' and 'doing the right thing' might not the same thing?