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Re:Twitter's Fucked by scholia on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:09PM (#12174578)
> Milo's tweets weren't anywhere NEAR harassment level. Trolling a famous person on twitter is not harassment and brigading.

Milo had tens of thousands of flying monkeys to troll and harass people on his behalf. He knew this perfectly well, and used it all the time.

His tweets didn't need to be particularly harassing: all he had to do was point the finger. Which he did.

Re:Twitter's Fucked by Karunamon on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:18PM (#12174652)
So what, when you gain over some arbitrary amount of followers, you're not allowed to ever tweet about another person? What's the magic number at which you're not allowed to speak about anything but generalities?

That's an plainly insane rule. How about Twitter actually ban people who actually break the site rules, act with some small measure of maturity, and stop moderating with a political bias that a child could see?

Re:Twitter's Fucked by SixSigma on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:45PM (#12175492)
Running out of money ?

Give $10,000-$25,000 to The Clinton Foundation

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/05/clinton-foundati...

Re:Twitter's Fucked by scholia on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:33PM (#12174817)
You're ignoring the context. Milo knew what he was doing. It was deliberate harassment.

And thanks to his thuggish role in gamergate, he had plenty of "previous".

Re:Twitter's Fucked by Karunamon on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:34PM (#12174832)
Milo knew what he was doing.

What objective facts do you base this on? The tweets themselves are completely innocuous.

And meanwhile, people who post actual harassment and threats are left unscathed (I've personally reported a few myself), and while I'm not privy to what happens in Jack's office, it definitely quacks like it's okay to to harass if you subscribe to one political mindset, but not another.

Re:Twitter's Fucked by scholia on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:43PM (#12174933)
We followed each other on Twitter, and have mutual acquaintances. I also know personal stuff about Milo that not many people know. If there were meanings that weren't obvious to you, that doesn't mean they weren't there.
Re:Twitter's Fucked by Karunamon on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:54PM (#12175062)
It also means those meanings are completely worthless to bring into this discussion as they can't be evaluated - your comment is worded as if it's personal stuff you don't want to get in to.
Re:Twitter's Fucked by scholia on Thursday July 28, 2016 @05:29PM (#12183330)
Maybe it's a cultural thing. Milo is basically an example of British schoolboy humor, and the biggest joke for us, watching it, is that Republicans don't get the joke and take him seriously.

But then, Milo is just riding Trump, and plenty of Republicans take him seriously as well. (Not all, of course. Some have retained their integrity https://goplifer.com/2016/07/22/resignation-letter/ )

The problem is that people who are being taken for a ride obviously don't know they are being taken for a ride, or they wouldn't be. And they definitely don't want to know that: they'll just get angry. So it's much better not to tell them....

Re:Twitter's Fucked by michaelbuddy on Thursday July 28, 2016 @08:35PM (#12184329)
his 'thuggish role' you mean when he realized that the media were telling lies, where gaming websites were insulting gamers and he stood up for them on Twitter and Breitbart. What you call thuggish is really superior charisma and getting results.
Re:Twitter's Fucked by scholia on Saturday July 30, 2016 @07:04PM (#12195029)
Whatever #gamergate was supposed to be, in reality, it resulted in a series of thuggish massed attacks on women such as Zoë Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian.

I guess any self-righteous and simple-minded "cause" like #gamergate is likely to attract trolls and misogynists, but my personal experience on Twitter was that it was mainly backed by thick bigots. Of course, YMMV.

Just the sort of crowd that Milo can manipulate. And in his cynical self-aggrandising universe, dupes are there to be manipulated.

Re:Twitter's Fucked by Karunamon on Sunday July 31, 2016 @10:18AM (#12197052)
I implore you to read some of the facts on #gamergate - it's no coincidence that most of the people crowing the loudest about harassment have a financial motive to present that argument.

Most of what you're hearing is horribly, horribly slanted, if not outright false. Ask yourself why we're supposed to take someone that cries "i'm being harassed!" on faith. Ask yourself why certain prominent individuals have been caught faking harassment directed at themselves.

http://deepfreeze.it - literally every single point of discussion on this site is backed up with a citation, and it provides a very strong, very plausible alternative to the narrative surrounding that movement. I'm not going to say that trolls in there don't exist, but it's not near as significant a component of the group as you've been led to believe.

Re:Twitter's Fucked by scholia on Monday August 01, 2016 @02:24PM (#12204695)
> Most of what you're hearing is horribly, horribly slanted, if not outright false.

Not in my personal experience, both of Milo and of Gamergate. Glad to hear you have a different and better experience, but I saw the harassment and thuggery in action.

Re:Twitter's Fucked by michaelbuddy on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:19PM (#12174663)
>Milo had tens of thousands of flying monkeys to troll and harass people

your claim. I was reading his tweets and you're wrong. It's simple. you don't have a leg to stand on. And thanks to twitter, we don't have the records to look at either. But since I was reading them I know, so I don't have to take your claim into consideration.

Re:Twitter's Fucked by ruste on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:54PM (#12175053)
For what it's worth: https://tweetsave.com/nero
Re:Twitter's Fucked by scholia on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:33PM (#12174824)
Your problem, I think.
Re:Twitter's Fucked by michaelbuddy on Thursday July 28, 2016 @08:36PM (#12184333)
Yeah I reread his tweets there. They were no where near harassment level, again I reiterate. This is twitter's failure and it didn't help them in their stock this week. It may be a fatal blow as things continue and replacement platforms start to surface.
Re:Twitter's Fucked by scholia on Friday July 29, 2016 @08:52AM (#12186473)
I read his tweets. We followed each other on Twitter. The problem is you're naive enough not to understand them. But as with gamergate, Milo is an expert at exploiting dupes.