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Re:Our statement on the results of the Jacob Appelbaum inves... by avs733 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @12:45PM (#12174350)
>This sort of event

It wasn't the event that made him look bad, it was his actions. Don't be passive about this.

Re:Our statement on the results of the Jacob Appelbaum inves... by wolfgke on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @12:50PM (#12174386)
> It wasn't the event that made him look bad, it was his actions.

It was what somebody else claimed his actions were.

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Re:Our statement on the results of the Jacob Appelbaum inves... by avs733 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:47PM (#12174964)
Its not about whether or not he did it, it is simply about the fact that what we as a group are talking about is the actions (or at least accused actions) of a person.

"This sort of event" is an incredibly passive expression of what he is accused of doing. Such language is incredibly common [0] in rape and sexual assault cases, because it removes actors from the conversation. You can say "The actions that Appelbaum people have accused him of" and be much more actively voiced while also respecting your wish to present him as simply the accused.

[0] http://web.stanford.edu/class/linguist156/Bohner_2001.pdf Quoting: "The language of headlines that participants generated for their reports also reflected judgments of assailant and victim responsibility. Implications for the non-reactive assessment of responsibility attributions and directions for future research are discussed."

Re:Our statement on the results of the Jacob Appelbaum inves... by metaphorm on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:28PM (#12175345)
you're making a semantics of language argument? really?

you said "it was his actions". this asserts that you know, positively, what his actions were. do you really? I said you should not act like you are the judge or jury because I find it highly unlikely that you really know the facts of the case. I don't think anyone really knows the facts of the case, and we never will, because there won't be a fair trial.

Re:Our statement on the results of the Jacob Appelbaum inves... by jubalfh on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:34PM (#12176296)
Consider: “officer Batman shot metaphorm dead” vs. “officer Batman's weapon discharged killing metaphorm”.
Re:Our statement on the results of the Jacob Appelbaum inves... by avs733 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:29PM (#12176261)
yes really.

It is not simply 'semantics', there is a research basis to suggest that these semantics are used in specific ways in specific situations that bring into question the intentionalality and choice behind them.

Re:Our statement on the results of the Jacob Appelbaum inves... by metaphorm on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:37PM (#12176326)
but do you know, really, what his actions were?