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Re:Soylent: Proudly Made with GMOs by dkersten on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @12:08PM (#12166610)
"As a society, we struggle to satisfy the global demand for food."

My vegan friends claim that this is only true because we waste so much food/water to feed livestock for meat.

Even if thats not true, humans waste a lot of food. Hell, my local supermarket throws out enough food each day to feed me for a month. (Ok ok not really true because it wouldn't last a month, but quantity-wise...)

Re:Soylent: Proudly Made with GMOs by adamkruszewski on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @12:23PM (#12166733)
And there is the whole 'bio-fuel' movement where basically people grow 'bio-fuel' in places where there was food growing earlier cause they get subsidies for doing so. How to account for such 'lost' food sources?
Re:Soylent: Proudly Made with GMOs by nibs on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @01:21PM (#12167219)
We should produce halophytes on saline and dessert land and use it for biofuel, feedstock and food. Ex.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salicornia
Re:Soylent: Proudly Made with GMOs by atemerev on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:57AM (#12171599)
Biofuel is crazy. It produced massive ecological and economical damage, ruining supply chains for generations ahead. Who and why ever thought it was a good idea?
Re:Soylent: Proudly Made with GMOs by rasmusei on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @05:46PM (#12168956)
Your vegan friend has a good point. Production of animal-based foods typically use 2-10 times more feed (and consequently more land etc) than what would be needed to feed humans directly.

The article cites the often-cited FAO claim [1] that 70% more food production is needed by year 2050. But researchers are now also increasingly agreeing that dietary choices should be considered -- FAO's "70% increase" claim builds on their projections of future human diets.

For a recent example of this alternative view, see Tilman and Clark (2014) [2]. In summary: Current western diets are harmful for the planet and for human health, so let's also consider changing our diets.

[1] http://www.fao.org/news/story/en/item/35571/

[2] www.nature.com/articles/nature13959 behind paywall, but also on SciHub http://sci-hub.cc/10.1038/nature13959

Re:Soylent: Proudly Made with GMOs by atemerev on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:56AM (#12171590)
There is enough food in the world, with capacity to produce much more. What isn't enough is money in some places to pay for it.

Giving food for free works, but this is a short-term solution. A long-term solution is making all people productive, but this is a hard problem.

Re:Soylent: Proudly Made with GMOs by gnaritas on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @11:49PM (#12170412)
>> As a society, we struggle to satisfy the global demand for food. > My vegan friends claim that this is only true because we waste so much food/water to feed livestock for meat.

It's not true at all. There's plenty of food in the world, there's plenty of hungry people in the world, unfortunately, they don't tend to be in the same places, and food is perishable, and people don't work for free. It's a transportation and economic problem, not a food shortage problem. It'll probably be solved by better ways to produce locally because shipping food to the starving people isn't going to suddenly start working.