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Re:Why do so few humans kill themselves? by Retric on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @10:44AM (#12165942)
Being extremely depressed actually reduces short term risks of suicide because planning shuts down. It's the middle ground where things are bad, but people can still think that has the highest risks.*

*Excluding hospital assisted suicide where someone OD's on pain medication under end of life pain.

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Re:Why do so few humans kill themselves? by Bartweiss on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @10:54AM (#12166029)
But "no hope" is not equivalent to "extremely depressed".

Think of people who commit suicide over inescapable scandals, chronic pain, or terminal illness. Extremely depressed comes with 'no hope', but that's cancelled out by 'decreased agency' (which is one theory for why antidepressants carry suicide risk). Not every form of hopelessness shares that loss of agency.

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